In the paper Aug. 20, there was a little bitty tiny article about thousands of protesters in Boston stopping a free speech rally ("'Free speech rally' cut short after massive counter-protest," The Daily News, AP, Aug. 20).

They ran them off, but that wasn't enough fun. Members of the Black Lives Matter group didn't stop there. They began beating on police cars, throwing rocks, bottles and urinating at the police. They kindly asked them to stop.

Where's the indignation about them doing that in The Daily News, CNN, and so on? That only appears to show up when the other side does something the liberal media doesn't like. They also burnt the Confederate flag. Big deal; they burned the American flag, too.

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Carlos Ponce

AP news feeds are notorious for being Liberal. Most stories spin to the Left.

Mark Aaron

"AP news feeds are notorious for being Liberal. Most stories spin to the Left."

Poor Carlos, you think everyone is a Liberal, don't you? Do you ever stop to think that if what you claim is true then Liberals massively out number Conservatives?

Carlos Ponce

"then Liberals massively out number Conservatives" No, they are few but LOUD in Texas.

George Crater

It appears the liberal media is trying to brainwash their listeners.
CNN will interview someone who has a republican POV. After a few minutes, this well-known, established, technology-advanced organization suddenly 'loses' their feed. Actually they just turn them off and blame technical difficulties, but it always seems to happen to the right, never the left.

Believe it or not, there IS a way for the left and right to come together and work on solving problems in this country, but the liberal media continues to be stubborn to broadcast actual honest truthful news. Doing this focuses attention on the false accusations and dishonest 'sources' are never questioned, and they simply run with it. There is no scandal, no cover-up, no misrepresentation from the White House, so why continue to broadcast false story after false story? To brainwash their viewers into believing their agendas.

News and media are supposed to broadcast the news and leave it up to viewers to make up their own minds as to what or who is right or wrong. Liberal media doesn't believe in this concept; if you don't believe in their false stories, then you must be a racist, a homophobe, a Klan member, a Nazi, or one of the other 'tags' they label people as. Hillary lost, get over it, before the media leads this country into absolute disarray and chaos.

Mark Aaron

"It appears the liberal media is trying to brainwash their listeners.
CNN will interview someone who has a republican POV. After a few minutes, this well-known, established, technology-advanced organization suddenly 'loses' their feed."

You are seeing Liberals everywhere, aren't you George? Poor thing.

Carlos Ponce

Poor George! He was born with a brain and he's using it to the chagrin of Liberals everywhere!

George Crater

Poor me? Nah, not in the least. You know where you can stick your better than thou comments.

Kelly Naschke

Journalists have been replaced by propagandists. Journalism is dead. FAKE NEWS

Mark Aaron

"Journalists have been replaced by propagandists. Journalism is dead. FAKE NEWS"

Yes, you had better look out Kelly, those evil Liberals are everywhere and they are out to get you. Oh my. Now don't go getting the vapors.

Kelly Naschke

The progressive left, anchored by the media and entertainment industries, has no choice other than smear campaigns, name calling, obfuscation, and outright lies in attempting to convince the public to side with them. They can't hold debates or engage in substantive dialogue because they lose every time.

George Croix

No, they can hold debates and 'town halls'.
It's just they won't let anybody talk but themselves, and shout down all attempts.
That's what's known as 'fair' in 'progressive' speak....
[beam][wink][smile]

Mark Aaron

"They can't hold debates or engage in substantive dialogue because they lose every time. "

From what I am reading it is Republicans who are hiding out from their constituents, not Democrats.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/05/pat-toomey-ted-cruz-healthcare-bill-protest

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/thomas-jefferson-street/articles/2017-07-05/republicans-keep-ducking-voters-on-trumpcare-repeal-of-obamacare

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/04/11/republicans-hide-plan-sham-town-halls-duck-angry-constituents#

Carlos Ponce

Most are not constituents, voters from their districts. They come in from all over urged by social media. Some said Congressman Randy Weber refused to meet with his constituents but I've had several conversations with him in public. The last time was a few days ago.

Mark Aaron

"Most are not constituents, voters from their districts. They come in from all over urged by social media. "

You mean like those "outside agitators" who brought about desegregation, Carlos?

If you hear Rep. Weber is having an open meeting please let us know. I know more than a few of my neighbors who would like to confront him over his recent votes to kill the ACA.

George Croix

Gotta love the people 'offended' at the slightest thing can scream and shout and make total jerks of themselves in meetings and media, and it's the other guy's fault.....
Always a mistake to put too much stock in your own PR....[beam][beam][beam]

Mark Aaron

"Gotta love the people 'offended' at the slightest thing can scream and shout and make total jerks of themselves in meetings and media, and it's the other guy's fault.....Always a mistake to put too much stock in your own PR.... "

Do you own a mirror, George? Do you know what the term "projection" refers to?

George Croix

First, they need to cover their collective liberal media heads in shame...just as soon as they extract them from their ...well...uh....

Mark Aaron

"First, they need to cover their collective liberal media heads in shame...just as soon as they extract them from their ...well...uh...."

Spreading the hate still George?

Carlos Ponce

Did you fill in the dots with your own interpretation, Mark? I see nothing hateful about George's post. You do but it's all in your mind. Here's the way I interpreted it:
"First, they need to cover their collective liberal media heads in shame...just as soon as they extract them from their ...clouded judgement."

Mark Aaron

"Did you fill in the dots with your own interpretation, Mark?"

I was referring to this Carlos:

"cover their collective liberal media heads in shame..."

Unlike you and George I don't just assume that anyone who disagrees with rightwing extremists are Liberals. Good reporters and news sources strive to be objective. That is a point you seem to have a very difficult time understanding, Carlos. Given that your professed source of news are evangelical religious "news" sites I am not surprised. Polls indicate that evangelicals still support Trump in large numbers irregardless of his lies, treason, and incompetence.

Do you always reach for the most bigoted interpretations when speaking of Lliberals, Carlos?

Carlos Ponce

"Good reporters and news sources strive to be objective. " I've posted that it in past - IF you BOTHERED to read it. Too bad good journalists are rare. Too many have an agenda, usually Liberal.

Carlos Ponce

Filling in the dots is up to the reader unless you are a mind reader. You fill it with HATE.

Mark Aaron

"Too bad good journalists are rare. Too many have an agenda, usually Liberal."

Poor Carlos, such abject paranoia must be difficult to live with.

George Croix

Perhaps the conservative member of the GDn balanced editorial staff will weigh in...?

Mark Aaron

"Perhaps the conservative member of the GDn balanced editorial staff will weigh in...?"

Do you find objectivity distressing, George?

George Crater

I just listened to the governor's press conference regarding hurricane Harvey.
Reporters asked questions, such as, is there a casualty toll thus far, damage report, and other questions regarding Harvey.

Then, 1 reporter asked a truly baited and incinuating question; " have you heard of reports of illegal aliens being turned away from shelters?" REALLY??!!

Obviously it had to be a race baiting liberal jerk to attempt to bring politics into a national disaster, there is no limit to how low the left will stoop in order to stir up controversy. Abbott simply replied " no", with a bewildered look on his face. I hope this person loses their job, and it wouldn't surprise me if they worked for the GDN. being they seem to lean that direction heavily.

George Croix

You can't fix stupid, Mr. Crater, or people like that who are also, simply jerks....
Do you happen to recall who the 'reporter' was?
It's always good to know who has proven themselves by word or deed so worthy of being ignored.....

Mark Aaron

"Obviously it had to be a race baiting liberal jerk to attempt to bring politics into a national disaster, there is no limit to how low the left will stoop in order to stir up controversy. Abbott simply replied " no", with a bewildered look on his face. I hope this person loses their job, and it wouldn't surprise me if they worked for the GDN. being they seem to lean that direction heavily. "

I wonder what your response will be if they do find that undocumented folks were turned away. I hope that isn't true, but when I hear people like you, Carlos, and Kelly I fear that it could happen in Texas.

George Crater

Mark, you must be from another state, coming onto this forum and even hinting at such a wild and crazy comment of the possibility of them turning illegals away. We don't do that stuff in Texas, we're a RED state republican proud. We bring them in and if they're found to be criminals, we send them home after the storm !

Mark Aaron

"Mark, you must be from another state, coming onto this forum and even hinting at such a wild and crazy comment of the possibility of them turning illegals away. We don't do that stuff in Texas, we're a RED state republican proud. We bring them in and if they're found to be criminals, we send them home after the storm !"

Sounds a bit like those who prefer to hang the undocumented first and then give them a fair trial.

Carlos Ponce

Mark, are you from another state? Your views do sound very Left Coast.

Carlos Ponce

"sick bigotry"? Same baseless ad hominem attacks. Goes to character. Looks like some can't be civil. I won't dish it back at you in the same vein this time. You've shown you can dish it out but can't take it.
BLM is not like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. . His niece, Alveda King, called BLM’s methods inappropriate.
Alveda King, the niece of civil rights icon Martin Luther King, says that the tactics employed by the Black Lives Matter movement do not represent the spirit of what her uncle stood for.
“I’m thinking some people don’t even remember Martin Luther King and what he stood for,” said King during an appearance on the Alex Jones Show, referring to the recent interruption of Bernie Sanders’ campaign event by Black Lives Matter protesters.
“Of course black lives matter, all lives matter….they don’t even know that it’s disrespectful to go to a meeting and jump into people’s faces and scream ‘black lives matter’ but no one has taught them how to articulate a need and because they don’t know how, they’re doing it inappropriately,” she added.

Carlos Ponce

"I hope that isn't true, but when I hear people like you, Carlos, and Kelly I fear that it could happen in Texas." Really? That is the most ridiculous post you've made. It has NO BASIS in reality. Can you point to one of my posts where I actually suggest this???? No, you can't.

Mark Aaron

"Can you point to one of my posts where I actually suggest this???? "

The vast majority of your posts reek of bigotry, Carlos. Whether it is against BLM, undocumented, or especially Liberals.

Carlos Ponce

"The vast majority of your posts reek of bigotry, Carlos."
No they do not. Having differing views does not make me racist.
I have provided various links that show BLM is not a nice organization. I guess the Minneapolis Star Tribune is too Conservative for you, too.
Illegal aliens have violated the laws of the United States. Guess you don't believe in the rule of law. Among the "good people" (as stated by Trump) there are those who do criminal activities; rape, murder, drug dealing. Only a naive or ignorant person would not know that. If you went to Mexico without papers (sin permiso) they'd throw you in jail. You could always bribe their officials to avoid that but you still have to get documentation.
I have Liberal friends and relatives with whom I discuss issues. They don't see my views as bigoted, only different than theirs.

Mark Aaron

"Mark, are you from another state? Your views do sound very Left Coast."

I am a second generation Texan. I have lived in Galveston since 1983. You guessed wrong yet again, Carlos.

Mark Aaron

"No they do not. Having differing views does not make me racist."

Correct, it is the bigoted responses that mark you as a bigot.

"I have provided various links that show BLM is not a nice organization."

This is exactly the kind of comment that marks you as a racist, Carlos. Black Lives Matter is a coalition of concerned citizens who are working together to bring attention to the epidemic of police shootings, beatings, and profiling of Black citizens. If you can't recognize that epidemic you are likely a racist who doesn't want to see.

BLM is a peaceful movement and the overwhelming majority of their protests are exactly that, peaceful. Just because a rare few bad seeds act up on occassion that doesn't mean the entire group is bad. But that doesn't stop you from attacking and denigrating their just cause in its entirety. Why is that, Carlos? Why do you hate Black folks so much?

Carlos Ponce

I think you'd be happier on the west coast.[beam]

Carlos Ponce

"BLM is a peaceful movement" If they are, too many BLM are doing nasty things to others. The evidence does not support your post.
And my responses are not "bigoted".
Definition of "bigot" - a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions:
I accept the views of others and inform them of my own. i often quote from a quotation attributed to Voltaire: "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it."
Again, the evidence does not support what you post.

Mark Aaron

" If they are, too many BLM are doing nasty things to others. The evidence does not support your post."

I'm sure you wish that were true as you look for any opportunity to spread your sick bigotry Carlos. Truth is BLM is a non violent movement in the model of Dr. King's civil rights movement. They consistently renounce violence. You have yet to provide any convincing evidence to suggest otherwise. Why do you hate Black people so much? Why do you always look for the absolute worst interpretation when Blacks are in the news?

Mark Aaron

"Members of the Black Lives Matter group didn't stop there. They began beating on police cars, throwing rocks, bottles and urinating at the police. "

Do you have a credible source that can confirm your accusation against BLM. I try to keep up and I have seen no credible claim affirming that.

Carlos Ponce

"Hundreds more Black Lives Matter protesters are arrested across America as police in Minnesota are pelted with rocks and fireworks on SIXTH night of demonstrations"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3683777/Minnesota-Louisiana-leaders-say-not-tolerate-violent-protests.html

Kelly Naschke

Kind of funny reading Marks posts...he is so ill informed on the factual events that we can just sit back and laugh. I guess BLM wasnt chanting about "frying the pigs like bacon " huh mark? Keep up your posts pal......you are proof positive and of what's wrong with low information voters such as yourself.

Mark Aaron

" I guess BLM wasnt chanting about "frying the pigs like bacon " huh mark? "

I spoke to this issue the other day, Kelly. That was an unfortunate 30 second chant during a four hour march. It came during a demonstration after White police shot and killed a Black man who was selling CD's.That ill advised chant was from one chapter out of hundreds across the country who have consistently protested peacefully. Your attempt to paint the entire movement because of that chant speaks far more about you than it does the BLM.

I'm still waiting for any of you to provide credible evidence that the BLM has engaged in any violence. So far you are all batting zero for zero.

Kelly Naschke

Does Mark REALLY not know that it's a well coordinated part of the lefts strategy to disrupt town hall meetings??? Man...sad to be so uninformed.

Mark Aaron

"Does Mark REALLY not know that it's a well coordinated part of the lefts strategy to disrupt town hall meetings???"

You don't know that Kelly because the GOP is afraid to have any meetings.

I do however remember vividly the Tea Partiers interrupting and shouting down Democratic politicians and moderate Republicans during the past two national elections. I guess those slipped your mind.

Carlos Ponce

Town Hall Meetings -Constituents welcome, Out of district agitators should keep away. Non-constituents agitating is called "astroturfing" because it is FAKE grass roots.

Mark Aaron

""Hundreds more Black Lives Matter protesters are arrested across America as police in Minnesota are pelted with rocks and fireworks "

You have been duped by your own bias this time, Carlos. While BLM members were arrested for peaceful protests (a sit-in) there is no evidence that BLM members were engaged in any violence against the police. That violence was condemned by the BLM."

It might also help you to know that the Daily Mail is a conservative tabloid. Not a particularly credible source.

Carlos Ponce

Don't like out of country news sources that don't have a stake in this?
How about a local newspaper, The Star Tribune of Minneapolis. Minnesota?
"Members of the Black Lives Matter movement held a protest on the Common, where a Confederate flag was burned and protesters pounded on the sides of a police vehicle.The police department tweeted Saturday afternoon that some protesters were throwing bottles, urine and rocks at them."
http://www.startribune.com/massive-counterprotest-upstages-boston-free-speech-rally/441102093/
NY Post too conservative for you?
"Members of the KKK, Black Lives Matter, and Westboro Baptist Church reportedly threw urine at each other and police had to step in in an attempt to keep the peace, a police spokesperson told KPLC."
http://nypost.com/2016/07/19/protesters-throwing-urine-at-each-other-outside-rnc/
What about CBS Cleveland affiliate WOIO Channel 19?
"Activists from Black Lives Matter, Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK were in the square and, at one time, were said to be throwing urine at each other."
http://www.cleveland19.com/story/32479326/watch-live-black-lives-matter-protest-near-east-4th-st

Mark Aaron

The NY post is owned by rightwing zealot Rupert Murdoch.

Mark Aaron

"Town Hall Meetings -Constituents welcome, Out of district agitators should keep away. Non-constituents agitating is called "astroturfing" because it is FAKE grass roots."

Only that isn't what is happening, Carlos. If you had been paying attention you would have seen all of those folks at the Town Hall meetings pull out their local voter ID's when their Republican representatives tried to claim that pernicious lie.

Carlos Ponce

You believe what you want. I've already posted websites that show non-constituents attending town halls harassing the Republican Congressman. I could re-post but you would dismiss them.Here's one I didn't post from Liberal WAPO:
"Town halls are being exploited by liberal advocacy groups with national motives. So, it makes sense to close them down to people who actually belong to the district." www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/13/to-hold-a-town-hall-or-not-its-a-lose-lose-situation-for-many-republicans-right-now/

Mark Aaron

"Here's one I didn't post from Liberal WAPO: "Town halls are being exploited by liberal advocacy groups with national motives. So, it makes sense to close them down to people who actually belong to the district.""

Dishonest much Carlos? You cite a quotation from a Republican mayoral candidate as if it were the Washington Post making the comment. You have no credible facts, as usual.

Carlos Ponce

Not a quote from a Republican mayoral candidate but from Washington Post writer Amber Phillips. It's in a different paragraph and lacks quotation marks and names no source other than the writer herself.

Mark Aaron

"Not a quote from a Republican mayoral candidate but from Washington Post writer Amber Phillips. It's in a different paragraph and lacks quotation marks and names no source other than the writer herself."

You are lying by omission Carlos. Directly from the Washington Post article:

_Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.): She held a town hall in February that was only open to prescreened residents of the town she was in, Fairview, who had reserved seats in advance. At one point, the town's mayor took the event off the city's website because, the mayor told CNN, officials wanted it to be a “low key” “community meeting.”_

_The lawmakers' rationale behind all the new rules: Town halls are being exploited by liberal advocacy groups with national motives. So, it makes sense to close them down to people who actually belong to the district._

Ask yourself why you have to lie to make your case Carlos.

Carlos Ponce

"The lawmakers' rationale behind all the new rules:...." You do know what "lawmakers' " refers to. It is a deduction made by the writer of statements made from several people. And you're trying to tie it to ONE Republican lawmaker? "lawmakers" (PLURAL) followed by the apostrophe attributes a deduction made from the statements from several lawmakers. Who wrote the actual statement ???? THE WRITER. No one said it. She deduced it from their statements.
Not lying.
I do know how to read.

Jarvis Buckley

Mark- question have you always been such a radical thinking democrat? Truthfully you seem way to smart for that. Tell us what pushed you over the ledge of conservatism into the pitfalls of liberalism. Something doesn't seem right here.
Are you pulling our leg?

Mark Aaron

"Mark- question have you always been such a radical thinking democrat?"

I am simply an FDR-LBJ Democrat. Nothing radical or unique about my beliefs. You and the other Trump supporters are the radicalized extremists. You are the ones telling people to hate the poor. You are the ones who hate my government. You are the dupes of Nixon's "Southern Strategy."

Mark Aaron

My mistake, I said "Nixon's Southern Strategy" when I meant "Reagan's Southern Strategy."

Carlos Ponce

"You are the ones telling people to hate the poor. " We hate poverty and are trying to help people avoid or get out of it. Democrat Policy on the other hand keeps people in poverty. They want to CONTROL your life from womb to the tomb, cradle to the grave.
"You are the ones who hate my government." Not true. We LOVE
[love][love][love] the government as defined by the Constitution: Limited power to the Feds, the rest belonging to states and the PEOPLE.
"You are the dupes of Nixon's 'Southern Strategy.' Not really. We're not dupes nor are we disciples of Richard Nixon who was not really "Conservative".

Mark Aaron

"We hate poverty and are trying to help people avoid or get out of it. Democrat Policy on the other hand keeps people in poverty."

More of you Fox News nonsense, Carlos. The GOP is the party that still wants to pretend that "trickle down economics" works despite a mountain of evidence showing it doesn't. The GOP is the party of the 1%, the party that wants to cut help and benefits for the poor and middle class in order to give tax cuts to the wealthy. Many of whom, like Trump, pay no taxes. When Democrats are in power unemployment and the national debt goes down. When Republicans are in power unemployment and the debt skyrockets.

"They want to CONTROL your life from womb to the tomb, cradle to the grave."

Republicans are the ones who want to control your personal life, your sex life, your recreation, and who you are allowed to marry. The only thing the GOP cares about limiting is reasonable control over polluting corporations and the ability of the wealthy to exploit the system.

"We're not dupes nor are we disciples of Richard Nixon who was not really "Conservative"."

That is called the "no true Scotsman" fallacy.

George Crater

" Shoot em like pigs, fry em like bacon". That's the chant of BLM, referring to the police. Anyone who has the sheer nerve to stand up for a group like that is no better than the absolute WORST one of the group. There is absolutely NO justification to make such hateful comments, OR to defend it. Anyone who does defend BLM is defending this statement, and sorry, but you are beyond delusion and beyond conversation. So, please, anyone, try to defend that hateful statement, it will show your true colors.

Carlos is absolutely correct; there's no possible way to have a discussion with liberals. Once facts come out, the liberal-minded change the topic or inject sarcasm because there IS no answer they can provide without agreeing with conservatives.

Mark Aaron

"Anyone who has the sheer nerve to stand up for a group like that is no better than the absolute WORST one of the group. "

If that were true (it's not) then using your logic you must be a Nazi White Supremacist if you support the Republican Party. Did you not hear The Klansmen chanting "Unite the Right?"

Jack Cross

Please help me, Is Mark Aaron a virus or is he a parrot that someone has trained to repeat what the other person wrote.

Mark Aaron

"Please help me, Is Mark Aaron a virus or is he a parrot that someone has trained to repeat what the other person wrote."

You are making no sense Jack. Care to try again?

Carlos Ponce

Mark is a Liberal mouthpiece.

George Crater

Actually, I condemn ANY group of people who believes they are better than anyone else. With that being said, groups like BLM, New Black Panthers, KKK, Antifa, and others use intimidation and violence to get their message across, and they're all wrong.

But antifa and BLM are the 2 most recent groups of people to gain members, and are the groups that are instigating violence; when they are retaliated against, they quickly hide behind the very law enforcement agencies they attack. Ironic.

Soon, very soon, these hate groups will be dealt with swiftly and accordingly because Americans are tired of this crap, and they will lose, because freedom is what makes this country the greatest on earth, and antifa and BLM are against freedom, unless that freedom is aligned on their ideology of fascism and/or socialism, depending on which member you ask, because neither knows a thing about it. Nevertheless, it needs to be done, and they will be dealt with, so be it.

Mark Aaron

"" Shoot em like pigs, fry em like bacon""

That's not what they chanted. They actually said “pigs in a blanket, fire them like bacon.” No question it was a foolish thing to say. At least one source with knowledge of the incident says the chant was taken out of context. I wasn't there, nor were you, George. I'm inclined, given their record of peaceful intent, to give them the benefit of the doubt.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/blacklivesmatter-leader-pigs-in-a-blanket-chant-was-just-playful/

Mark Aaron

"Mark is a Liberal mouthpiece."

I am a proud American war veteran who believes that America should work together for the common good like we did for much of the 20th Century until Ronald Reagan and his henchman Lee Atwater convinced Americans that it was somehow patriotic to hate poor people and a government that would help them. Remember their hateful chants about "welfare queens" and how laughable it was that your government would be there to help you. Tell that to the folks getting help from FEMA and the first responders.

Carlos Ponce

The above is brought to you by Mark Aaron, local spokesman for the DNC.

Mark Aaron

"The above is brought to you by Mark Aaron, local spokesman for the DNC. "

Don't you want to accuse me of being paid for by George Soros, Carlos? That's what hate-mongering rightwingers normally do.

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