Do you know why terrorists do the things they do? They do terrible things to groups of innocent non-combatants, in the hopes that the citizenry will try to avoid future attacks by complaining to — and possibly rising up against — their own government. Get it? It is a form of blackmail.

A terrorist group’s message is: “If you want me to stop hurting you, then you must try to get your government to do what I want.”

So, what should we think about a group that says: “If you want me to stop withholding my money from you, then you must try to get your government to stop deliberating about a bathroom bill?” (this is what John Wayne Ferguson reported in his Political Buzz column: "Group cancels isle convention over bathroom bill," The Daily News, July 27). Hmm.

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Gary Scoggin

It's not blackmail at all. They are deciding to take their business elsewhere and just saying why.

Steve Fouga

Making a decision based on the political landscape isn't exactly terrorism, or even blackmail. It's a business decision. In some peoples' minds, TX is becoming a less friendly and less profitable place to do business. TX needs to get used to it. My impression is that TX doesn't care, so that should be easy enough.

Carlos Ponce

Face it. The same organizations that detest Texas' proposed Privacy Act already hate us for our laws against Sanctuary Cities among other things. Texas is a "Right to Work" state which businesses like but unions don't. They'll find some excuse not to hold their events in our great state.

Gary Scoggin

Well, they haven't until now.

Carlos Ponce

I bet you don't remember that they called for a boycott of Texas after President Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas.
Nor of Nuevo Leon calling for a boycott of Texas after the Trump-Carrier deal.
http://www.businessinsider.com/mexican-governor-calling-for-boycott-of-texas-trump-carrier-2016-12
And the rules to regulate health conditions for abortion mills also called for a boycott.
https://www.facebook.com/BoycottTexasNow
And as mentioned earlier the call to boycott Texas because of the anti-sanctuary cities bill.
http://www.elpasotimes.com/story/opinion/columnists/2017/07/09/call-economic-boycott-texas-column/103561206/
As usual these call for boycotts only pulled on Liberals' puppet strings.
Saner minds ignored those calls.

Carlos Ponce

Historically:
San Antonio Express June 20, 1926
"New York Bond Buyers Boycott Texas"
Reason: Archer County road decision
El Paso Herald Post July 23, 1955
"Highway Head Says Texas Won't Bow Before Boycott"
Reason? Texas crackdown on truck inspections with Mexican license plates.
Lowell Sun Wednesday, March 17, 1982
"Chavez warns boycott of Texas citrus crop"
Del Rio News Herald June 3, 1983
"States asked not to boycott Texas cattle"
Reason? Brucellosis Scare.
Big Spring Herald Monday, September 22, 1986
"UFWA boycotts Texas grapes"
Winnipeg Free Press Monday, March 29, 1999
"Canadian tourists to boycott Texas to protest to the pending execution of a convicted Killer"
Many , many more

Carlos Ponce

South Mississippi Sun Friday, March 8, 1974
"DALLAS (UPI) - The two million Baptists in Texas have been urged to boycott Texas International Airlines because its monthly magazine contains a story favoring legalized gambling in the state."
Charleston Gazette June 10, 1961
"Negro Track Stars Boycott Texas Meet"
Galveston Daily News May 2, 2006
"Day without immigrants" urge Texas boycott
Galveston Daily News March 29, 1999
"Anti-death penalty group [Members of the Canadian Coalition Against the Death Penalty] calls for boycott of Texas"

Carlos Ponce

Looks like those calling for a boycott of Texas over the Privacy Act don't care for the safety and well being of Texas women and children.

Gary Scoggin

Oh, they probably care more than you'd think. This isn't about safety of women and children. It's about moral judgement and condemnation of gay and transgender people. There is no statistical meaningful evidence that transgendered people are sexual predators, especially in public restrooms. People that think otherwise have either drank too much RINO KoolAid or are being disingenuous about their motivations.

Carlos Ponce

"This isn't about safety of women and children." Read the bill. This bill is EXACTLY about the safety of women and children.
" It's about moral judgement and condemnation of gay and transgender people." If the bill is enacted, members of the LGBTQ commuity will observe NO DIFFERENCE.

Jim Forsythe

As you know, the Episcopal Church supports local, state and federal laws that prevent discrimination based on gender identity or gender expression and opposes any legislation that seeks to deny the dignity, equality, and civil rights of transgender people. Because we are currently scheduled to hold our triennial General Convention—a nine-day event that includes as many as 10,000 people—in Austin in July 2018, we are paying especially close attention to the news emerging from your special session.
We want very much to hold our convention in Texas. However, as we wrote to you in February, we must be able to ensure that all Episcopalians and visitors to our convention, including transgender people, are treated with respect, kept safe, and provided appropriate public accommodation consistent with their gender identities  
In 1955, we were forced to move a General Convention from Houston to another state because Texas laws prohibited black and white Episcopalians from being treated equal
Read the whole letter at https://www.episcopalcafe.com/episcopalians-and-major-businesses-oppose-texas-bathroom-bill/

Denton County Judge Mary Horn is starring in radio commercials against the so-called bathroom bill pending in the Texas Legislature.
Horn, who presides over Denton County Commissioners Court, is a well-known Republican politician who describes herself as a Christian conservative

Carlos Ponce

Funny that Jim mentions the Episcopal church. Usually Liberals cry "separation of church and state" when Conservatives bring up a religious organization.
I too support " local, state and federal laws that prevent discrimination based on gender identity or gender expression and opposes any legislation that seeks to deny the dignity, equality, and civil rights of transgender people." Since this bill is not aimed at members of the LGBTQ I have no problem with it.
But if you want to quote religious groups how about this from the US Pastor Council:
"3 reasons Texas must protect the privacy of women and children in bathrooms "
http://uspastorcouncil.org/updates/3-reasons-texas-must-protect-the-privacy-of-women-and-children-in-bathrooms/
The original article came from Ron Simmons, Texas House member in the Dallas Morning News, GCDN's sister publication.
https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/07/29/3-reasons-texas-must-protect-privacy-women-children-bathrooms
1. The Texas Privacy Act protects the dignity and privacy of school-age children.
2. The Texas Privacy Act seeks to prevent sexual predators from posing as members of the transgender community in order to utilize the public restrooms, locker rooms or changing facilities of their choice. [Notice this says "POSING as members of the Transgender community", not the actual group.]
3. The Privacy Act ensures a consistent, uniform statewide policy, preventing a patchwork of different regulations among cities and school districts across Texas.

Jim Forsythe

And this bill prevent the wrong person in a bath room, how? And if they are caught in the wrong bathroom what is done to them?
If they are caught in the wrong restroom, do they pay a fine or go to jail or it just the owners of the building that pays a fine?
How does one tell it's a sexual predators  posing as members of the transgender community vs a member of the Transgender community

Carlos Ponce

Did you read the bill ? I provided the link.
"How does one tell it's a sexual predators posing as members of the transgender community vs a member of the Transgender community." Jim, sometimes I give you undue credit for intelligence. I've explained this umpteen times. Okay I'll reteach for those slow on the pickup. Members of the LGBTQ community will see on difference in their lives if this bill is enacted. If they look the part and go in doing what they're supposed to then nothing will be done. If on the other hand they go in and do something "strange" then the bill will be enforced and the offending part taken care of. Strange meaning something out of the ordinary for facility use usually involving actions of a perverted sexual nature.

Jim Forsythe

  Texas must decide what is more important, the bathroom bill or  economic growth. Some companies may not want to do business in Texas, if we do not match what is important to them.
In a letter to Gov. Greg Abbott on Monday, the leaders wrote that they support “diversity and inclusion” and that “any such bill risks harming Texas’ reputation and impacting the state’s economic growth.” Its signers included executives from Chevron, Shell, ConocoPhillips and ExxonMobil.  Abbott has called state lawmakers into a special legislative session after a bill requiring transgender Texans to use public restrooms corresponding to the gender on their birth certificates failed in May.
Apple, IBM, Facebook, the NFL and scores of other companies have previously opposed the bill.
Its signers included executives from Chevron, Shell, ConocoPhillips and ExxonMobil. 

"Michael Dell and Silicon Labs CEO Tyson Tuttle joined Facebook Founder Mark Zuckerberg, Apple CEO Tim Cook and other top notch tech CEOs in sending a letter to Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, urging him to veto any discriminatory “bathroom bill” that the Texas Legislature approves."
"Apple, Samsung, IBM, and a number of other tech companies are pulling together to oppose a so-called "bathroom bill" brewing in the Texas Senate "

"The business leaders join CEOs from 14 Dallas businesses, including AT&T, American Airlines, Southwest Airlines and Texas Instruments, who sent the governor a similar letter in July stating the legislation “would seriously hurt the state’s ability to attract new businesses, investment and jobs.
“Our companies are competing every day to bring the best and brightest talent to Dallas,” the letter stated. “To that end, we strongly support diversity and inclusion. This legislation threatens our ability to attract and retain the best talent in Texas, as well as the greatest sporting and cultural attractions in the world.”

IBM, which has a major campus in Austin, took things a step further by placing full-page ads opposing the legislation in the Dallas Morning News, San Antonio Express-News and Austin American-Statesman, according to the Dallas Morning News.

Gary Scoggin

Jim -- don't you understand? Those CEOs must either be godless liberals or predators themselves. ;-)

Jim Forsythe

Gary, my mistake , I was under the impression that when we worked for bp and Amoco, that they were Conservative.
Why is Texas  spending time on this, and not fixing school finance? Which is more important? 
Is this more important than how Texas taxes industries and let them continue to take away money for School District and city's?

Penalties are pointed towards Schools. The person that violates it , does not have a penalty. just the School District.
SUBCHAPTER D. 
Sec. 769.151. CIVIL PENALTY. (a) A school district, open-enrollment charter school, state agency, or political subdivision that violates this chapter is liable for a civil penalty of:
(1) not less than $1,000 and not more than $1,500 for the first violation; and
(2) not less than $10,000 and not more than $10,500 for the second or a subsequent violation.
SB 6 would impose civil penalties ranging from $1,000 to $10,500 on schools or governmental entities that do not regulate bathrooms based on biological sex. The bill would not impose any specific penalties on individuals who use a bathroom that doesn’t correspond to their biological sex.
 Each day of a continuing violation of this chapter constitutes a separate violation.
https://apps.texastribune.org/texas-bathroom-bill-annotated/

Carlos Ponce

"Why is Texas spending time on this, and not fixing school finance?" Both the school finance bill and the Privacy bill are important.

Carlos Ponce

" Those CEOs must either be godless liberals or predators themselves."Or both.[wink]
No, they're just following the Liberal fake news media.

Jim Forsythe

"Liberal fake news media."  What fake news are you talking about? Is it the news, that does not match what you think?
Most if not all large corporations have "diversity and inclusion” that is part of their Mission / Vision / Values
When they say that the have a problem with a State not matching their values, they are saying that they may look else where to expand , if not move what they have in place. Company's like Chevron, Shell, ConocoPhillips and ExxonMobil ,Samsung, AT&T .
I doubt  that they make Corporate decision by what is said in the news, about the bath room bill.

Some Judges are against it, do you think Judge Horn is swayed by the news about the bathroom bill?
"Denton County Judge Mary Horn is starring in radio commercials against the so-called bathroom bill pending in the Texas Legislature.
Horn, who presides over Denton County Commissioners Court, is a well-known Republican politician who describes herself as a Christian conservative, "

The Episcopal Church says the bathroom bill does not match what their faith teaches them. Do you think fake news is what they are following?

Carlos Ponce

"What fake news are you talking about? "
Take time to READ THE BILL!!!!!! You will find that the bill is NOT aimed at members of the LGBTQ. The thought that it is is FAKE NEWS!
READ THE BILL!!!!!! READ THE BILL!!!!!! READ THE BILL!!!!!! READ THE BILL!!!!!! READ THE BILL!!!!!! READ THE BILL!!!!!! READ THE BILL!!!!!! READ THE BILL!!!!!! READ THE BILL!!!!! READ THE BILL!!!!!! READ THE BILL!!!!!!

Jim Forsythe


"You will find that the bill is NOT aimed at members of the LGBTQ"  Fines are accessed to the owner of buildings, and not the person that goes into the wrong bathroom.  Is this the group that the bill is aimed at,  the building owners? 
As the bill that does nothing to prevents a person from going into the wrong bathroom, the bill  is aimed at who or what?
Maybe the fake news is that this bill prevents nothing , and changes nothing, except fines to the owners of the buildings.

Maybe I'm reading the wrong bill, Please provide a link to the bill.

Jim Forsythe

Forbes ask about  "Global Diversity and inclusion Fostering Innovation Through  a Diverse Workforce" of companies. Here's what they found out.
•  Diversity is a key driver of innovation and is a critical component of being successful on a global scale
•  A diverse and inclusive workforce is crucial for companies that want to attract and retain top talent. 
•  Nearly all respondents reported that their companies have diversity and inclusion strategies in place.
•  Organization’s diversity goals and priorities won’t change significantly over the next three years. When asked about their company’s current diversity and inclusion priorities, 43% cited retention and development of talent, followed  by ensuring diversity in the workplace in general (35%), developing a robust pipeline of diverse talent (29%), and managing cross-generational issues (28%).
•  Responsibility for the success of company’s diversity/inclusion efforts lies with senior management. In order  for a diversity/inclusion plan to have real meaning, there needs to be accountability and oversight. Seven out of ten companies reported that the buck stops at the C-level and their board of directors 
•  Significant progress has been made to build and retain diverse workforces, but there are still some impediments to companies’ efforts. Respondents feel they’ve made progress in gender diversity, but they feel  they’ve fallen short in areas such as disability and age.
https://images.forbes.com/forbesinsights/StudyPDFs/Innovation_Through_Diversity.pdf

George Croix

I guess that brand of 'diversity and inclusion' doesn't count anyone thinking or believing differently than the 'diverse and inclusive' bunch.
Odd.
I thought acceptance of differing ideas and ways and tolerance for all beliefs was what 'diversity and inclusion' was all about.
Guess it's just another buzz phrase for 'do what WE want, or we'll take our toys and go home"...
How very 'progressive', by any other name....
With 'progressives' beatings will continue until the prisoners get on board....[whistling]

Gary Scoggin

George.. Both sides are guilty of the behavior you describe. The Progressives and the RINOs like Abbott and Patrick,

George Croix

Yes, Gary.
But which 'side' decided it was necessary to make an issue rather than just shut up and go P like always before....?
How about at your house with visitors?
OK for the men to just walk in on the women in the potty?
It's not at mine...

Gary Scoggin

It wasn't the transgender folks that started this. Almost all of them (maybe Jenner and Manning excluded) try really hard to stay under the radar. most of them have been uncomfortable and even ridiculed their entire lives. The last thing they want is attention.

In my house, all are welcome. And neither my male or female guests make it a habit of walking in on others in the potty.

Gary Scoggin

It's not the diversity that upset most people. Its the inclusion.

George Croix

ps:
And don't forget where the insanity of 'deciding how one identifies', whenever they want to, started.....
Evidently, just looking down to see whether there was an inny or an outty attached was deemed no longer workable as a method of deciding where to P or whicjh locker room to use for 'progressives'.
No.
It's all about 'progressive' politics, because otherwise, nobody has cared forever whether the woman with a little something extra in the next stall was really female or not because they kept quite about it and made no 'issues' of it and simply P'd, non-politically.....

George Croix

I referenced 'progressives' as the genesis....sexual orientation is 'bipartisan' in all things.
The reason for the hubub about where to P was left wing politics.
Not sexual.
All are welcome in my house, too, Gary...but we don't feel a need to make a specific issue of sex.....they don't walk in on those of the opposite one because that's the RIGHT way to behave in an orderly society, not cast about for something to make an issue of.

George Croix

Can't possibly get school finance issues somewhat settled/improved until there's some control over the number of students entering the schools, anymore than one can plan funds for a party with no idea how many guests are coming...or staying long term....no way...no how.
Pretending otherwise ignores reality.
First things first on that....
Until that happens, there's no need, other than as partisan talking points one way or another, to wait on other issues...

George Croix

Question, Jim, if, as you say, the bill does nothing and prevents nothing, then why do you care if it passes?
Makes no difference anyway.
Doing nothing and preventing nothing, it's just like passing ills requiring people to stop at stop signs.
Or not committ murder.
Or......

George Croix

ills??

bills.....

Close enough

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