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Gary Miller

Last month,October, NOAA reported sea level has fallen every year since 1997. Very small decline of fractions of an inch yearly. Water expands and contracts with temp. Lower ocean temp may be the cause of most of the sea level change. Along Galveston coast one inch equals 7 feet of horizontal expansion.

Steve Fouga

"Yes, sea level is rising at an increasing rate."

"Global sea level has been rising over the past century, and the rate has increased in recent decades."

These sentences were taken from a NOAA website.

Somebody on this forum, possibly Gary, recently quoted an October NOAA report that contradicted all other NOAA sites, but I was unable to find it then, and unable now. Weird.

Carlos Ponce

Steve Fouga goes to the beach and reports sea level is rising, then falling, rising then falling, rising then falling.....[wink]

Jim Forsythe

"Steve Fouga goes to the beach and reports sea level is rising, then falling, rising then falling, rising then falling....".
and that's how mean sea-level is determined. 

Carlos Ponce

But is Galveston Island under water as predicted by climate change proponents?

Jim Forsythe

The predictions you give, are from what Scientific Research Group ?
The proponents would be who?
Why would you be spreading, what you think is false?

Carlos Ponce

Check the sources cited by Algore's "An Inconvenient Truth".

Jim Forsythe

I did not find "Galveston being under water", in the link you provided  Maybe I missed it, or maybe it not listed.

Carlos Ponce

Look at the links to sea levels along the coast. Last I heard, Galveston was an coastal barrier island. Has this changed?[whistling]

Jim Forsythe

Did not find "levels along the coast" but did find the link to Water Links , which has 22 links, none saying "levels along the coast" .
You do know that different coast lines, have different sea levels.

Mark Aaron

Carlos: [But is Galveston Island under water as predicted by climate change proponents? ]

You made this same improbable claim to me also Carlos. I think the time has come for you to back up your claim or apologize for misleading us.

Mike Box

Thanks Joe. Good summary. We can all argue, using data either real or imagined, about the causes at a particular location, but barrier islands move while we like our buildings to stay in one place, and therefore we will always be in the business of attempting to modify nature. I think there's an argument that the Corps of Engineers should be maintaining our beaches since they built the jetties that disrupted the sand flow as well as the ones on the Mississippi that divert sand into deep water.

Steve Fouga

Come on, Carlos.

Sea level is a measurable thing, and people measure it every day, in several ways, all over the world, and have for a long, long time. That's how we know it's rising. Sure, it varies continuously, and it's different everywhere, but its average is rising. Two of the most important reasons are that sea water is expanding as its temperature increases and that land ice is melting and flowing into the ocean.

These are facts, Carlos.

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