Once upon a time, the Texas economy was ranked second in the nation and touted as the “Texas Miracle.” Not that long ago, the Texas Senate was also highly regarded as a place where serious politicians deliberated matters of great consequence to Texans. Unfortunately, in the words of immortal Bob Dylan it appears “the times they are a changin’.”

According to Governing Magazine, the Texas economy has dropped to 21st in the nation based on analysis of state unemployment rates, per capita GDPs, per capita personal income and job growth. Texas continues to rank in the bottom 10 states for education spending per student and according to the Texas Medical Association was the “uninsured capital of the United States with more than 4.3 million Texans including 623,000 children” unable to access health insurance coverage in 2015.

Maybe it is coincidence, but since Dan Patrick’s promotion from talk radio host to state Senator and ultimately to Lt. Governor in November 2014, the reputation of the Texas Senate has plummeted even faster than the state economy. The current legislative session exemplifies Patrick’s radical conservative extremist takeover of the Senate.

In the grand tradition of Nero fiddling while Rome burned, Texas State Senators while away the time passing bathroom bills, banning imaginary sanctuary cities and ensuring that local municipalities don’t outlaw the use of plastic bags while the economy, public education, infrastructure and uninsured children are ignored.

Patrick and his radical conservative extremists have made the “bathroom bill” the focus and symbol of this legislative session even though it won’t be passed by the House of Representatives, which is now where the grown-ups in the Texas legislature live.

The bill is strongly opposed by economic interests including the Texas Association of Business, the NFL and numerous potential employers including Amazon and American Airlines. The bill does absolutely nothing to increase safety for women or children, but is clearly calculated as a spring board for Patrick’s future political aspirations.

Patrick’s pet bill sponsor Lois Kolkhorst claims the bill is “really not about the transgender. It is about other people that will abuse that.” Kolkhorst and other proponents continue to justify this meaningless legislation as a mechanism to protect women and children from creepy predators. However, everyone knows, Texas has strong criminal laws to punish sexual predators who try to enter bathrooms to commit crimes and there is still zero evidence that any transgender person has ever entered any Texas bathroom and committed any crime against any woman or child.

The bottom line is the bathroom bill does absolutely nothing to make the life of any Texan better. In fact, if it becomes law it will cost Texas jobs, money and reputation. It will however make Patrick more popular with the radical right wing base he needs to win future elections, which of course explains why the bathroom bill and not legislation to increase jobs, improve public education, rebuild infrastructure or provide health insurance for Texas children was one of Patrick’s “top” legislative priorities.

Neil G. Baron, an attorney and former League City Councilman, is writing columns from a progressive perspective.

(68) comments

David Alquest

Mr. Baron,
Thank you for your clear and simple, honest and straight-forward article on the so called Texas Bathroom Bill. It is refreshing indeed to have your truthful point-of-view. Those of us who have studied the issue are aware that the bill is more than a transgendered child using the restroom; that it is about discrimination against others in the workplace and in day-to-day living in our society.
I am pleased that I might be the first to respond since I feel you won't have any friends or people sharing your logical opinion. From all of my reading, i believe this forum is filled with the people you criticize - generally the same ones over and over again with their far right beliefs.
Dan Patrick has made this his primary issue while forgetting the important business of the State - as you mention, schools and insurance protection for the children to name a very few. I respect you for your no-nonsense article and admire you personally for saying so.

Paula Flinn

I agree with this comment and the article by Mr. Baron wholeheartedly. I wish the legislature had taken up school funding, and proposed a new plan that would not punish property rich districts like GISD. Sure we could send a few million to a district that is more needy, but $19 million is too much to send when our buildings need refurbishing and new roofs. If we continue putting off repairing and replacing leaky roofs the mold will grow, and unsafe conditions will threaten the health of our students.

Steve Fouga

Bathroom bill aside, Lt. Gov. Patrick is a nut. He must go. Help me elect someone else next time.

It's not Republican vs Democrat, it's idiocy vs normalcy. He's an embarrassment. Run anyone against him, and you've got my vote.

Carlos Ponce

"Texas continues to rank in the bottom 10 states for education spending per student". Other states (California, New York, New Jersey, etc spend more on education because the cost of living in these states is much, much higher, prices are higher, salaries have to be higher. While Texas buys some educational commodities in bulk (like textbooks) , other states don't. They buy by school system, driving the costs up.
"Cost-of-living differences between regions and resulting salary variations might also explain some of the disparities."
http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2014/01/22/18wop-states.h33.html
When it comes to actual dollars spent, Texas (88.4 billion) ranks second behind California (129.4 billion). but adjusted by cost of living, Texas 88.4 billion is roughly equivalent to California's129.4 billion.
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/state_summary.php?chart=20
As to per student spending, Texas spends $8593 per student while California spends $9595 per student.
http://education.cu-portland.edu/blog/classroom-resources/public-education-costs-per-pupil-by-state-rankings/
Adjust by cost of living, however Texas' $8593 is equivalent to $12,200 in California.
http://www.top50states.com/cost-of-living-by-state.html
when it comes to states with the best and worst school systems, Texas isn't at the top, not the bottom but is at number 21.
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-the-best-schools/5335/
Texas ranks Number 8 on the best states to be a teacher. (Click on Texas on the interactive map to get the updated ranking.)
http://www.businessinsider.com/best-states-to-be-a-teacher-2015-9/#no-10-maryland-1
"Metrics included the average starting salary and median annual salary for teachers, average class size, school safety and spending, income growth potential, and school systems ranking."

Paula Flinn

Schools are made up of people, not just numbers and statistics. A leaky roof will support mold and threaten even the best students and teachers. Cold statistics are just that, COLD! Your posts are beginning to sound like blah, blah, blah!

Carlos Ponce

"Cold statistics are just that, COLD! Your posts are beginning to sound like blah, blah, blah!" [rolleyes]
But they were okay when Neal made one blanket statement lambasting Texas schools. Amazing! Your just upset because COLD FACTS don't back your point of view.[whistling]

Paula Flinn

Not so, Carlos. I am not upset by your Cold Facts. I am not impressed with them, either. Schools = real people, and real problems when it comes to financing, not statistics, like how much each district or state spends on average per pupil compared to another. I believe we should educate all our students whether they are legal immigrants or illegal. Our last two Governors have made sure that the money available for public education has been drastically cut. Classrooms have 26 to 32 students in them per class. Our teachers in GISD have not received a raise in several years. They are providing their own pencil sharpeners and other supplies: paper, pens, pencils, etc. out of their own pockets. When the copy machines run out of paper or staples, there may not be reserve supplies.

When leaky roofs do not get replaced or repaired, in our warm, moist climate, mold grows very quickly. I know that instead of replacing old air conditioners, they dropped the ceilings on some rooms, covered up the old units, and connected the old rooms to the new system. Those old units are still up there, collecting dust, germs, and spiders.
My point is that we need a new school financing system right away, from our legislature, to be able to keep most of the money our school district collects, to spend on our own schools. Instead of doing this, the legislature wasted the time by debating an unnecessary "bathroom bill," which may be or may not be prejudicial and/or constitutional.

Carlos Ponce

Like them or not, impressed by them or not. Facts are Facts.

Carlos Ponce

"state unemployment rates"
Texas ranks number 15 at 5.1% http://money.cnn.com/interactive/economy/state-unemployment-rates/
GDP
In terms of overall GDP, Texas ranks second behind California.
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/state_summary.php?title=GDP_by_state
In terms of per capita GDP Texas ranks number 14.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP_per_capita
Texas ranks number 4 in terms of overall economy.
http://www.businessinsider.com/state-economy-ranking-july-2015-2015-7/#5-washington-444444444444444444444447
From:
http://www.businessinsider.com/ranked-the-50-us-state-economies-2014-8#2-texas-49
"Manufacturing and cuts in federal spending "contributed to the state's job growth slowdown." According to our data ...
Texas added the most jobs — 46,600.
The average annual wage was relatively high at $51,187.
Exports were also high at $10,567 per capita."

Carlos Ponce

"the reputation of the Texas Senate has plummeted...." Maybe among Liberals. They would say,"Texas i's so unpopular people quit moving there". FALSE
"Texas has become the top destination for people moving from other states, according to a report from the Office of the State Demographer. Leading the way are Californians."
https://www.texastribune.org/2016/04/20/texas-top-destination-domestic-migrants/

Doyle Beard

Bottom line Neil just cant get facts straight as usual. Hey Neil ever heard of fake news. You are one of those putting it out. Get a life.

Gary Scoggin

Specifically, what facts that Neil stated are "fake news." Is that a real term or just the latest Trump supporter dog whistle?

Carlos Ponce

FAKE NEWS from Neil:
Please read my posts on what Neil purports.

Martin Connor

Gary, if Neil wrote the sky is blue and the grass is green, Doyle would decry it's fake news and progressive propaganda.

Carlos Ponce

Martin, if there was PROOF what Neil wrote was not so or obfuscated would would you still accept his premise?

Doyle Beard

maybe you are like Neil full of fake news

Martin Connor

Not sure if my post constitutes as news. However, just because Neil writes from a leftist standpoint does not mean everything he writes is fake news. I thought this section of the paper was the opinion section, therefore what he is writing is of his opinion. Just calling it fake new because you disagree does not negate his right to view the statistics he uses as fake. It has begun to appear the the ones from either the "far left" of "far right" have gotten in this battle of using this term "fake news" when they disagree with the other side. I feel the majority of the middle just want fair and balanced in order to determine their thoughts and opinions on the affairs of today. With that said, it is rather entertaining though.

I'm new here and i do enjoy you all. Especially my former teacher Mr. Ponce who failed to even say "Hi", but instead questioned my opinion. LOL

Doyle Beard

FYI fake news is when one distorts facts. get it.

Martin Connor

So your saying, conservatives heroes like Hannity, O'Reily and Limbaugh don't distort the facts???? Come on now, they twist and spin any story to fit their narrative. So as far as fake news goes, the mainstream media definitely does. And along with them, any commentator, talk show host or writer that that speaks on any topic involving politics. All we can do is listen and decide for ourselves. Both sensationalize and play chicken little. However everyone watching and listening has to use common sense on how they receive it. I just hate the term fake news being used any time some one disagrees with someone.

Carlos Ponce

Hi! Martin!

Martin Connor

Hey Mr. Ponce. Keep fighting the good fight.[batman][batman]

Carlos Ponce

Martin, Limbaugh has a 99% accuracy rating. His shows are monitored by the Sullivan Group. Hannity's radio and television shows are monitored daily for accuracy. Snopes challenged his report on the 9th Circuit Court and asked him to produce proof and he did. O'Reilly is not as conservative as many purport but likewise Left wing groups monitor his statements as well. When challenged he either provides proof or states that he erred on his program. Glad to see you posting. I wish we could get Mr. Parker's view on things. That would prove interesting.

Martin Connor

Oh yes he does. However he does it on FB. You and he are still loved by all your former students regardless of political affiliation. But FB is easier for most of us to keep up as it's free. LOL.... I just don't prefer Hannity or Limbaugh. They are too obnoxious. And despite what you say, I'm surprised their accuracy ratings would be that high. The still speak their opinions on events which in turn is believed as facts by the majority of their listeners. Now Michael Berry on the other hand. I could listen to him all day.

Carlos Ponce

Martin, can you provide an example?

Carlos Ponce

Martin, can you provide an example of where the three you mention stretch the truth? And I hear from several ex-students who love what I post. I get kudos from church members, phone calls and thank you messages from others. There are even some who still work for the district who thank me for what I post. You have to remember that Galveston County is predominantly very conservative. From what they tell me I express what they are thinking. And there are a few who disagree.

Martin Connor

Mr. Ponce. My comment "yes he does" was referring to Mr. Parker's "Facebook Posts. I should have followed my comments on him afterwards. He keeps things lively and loose and profoundly funny.

Proof?? I have listened to those clowns. They are entertainers pure and simple. And very good at it i may add, because they have a ton of wealth to show for it. Of course they have researchers for most of their stuff, but as i recall from a few years ago, Limbaugh was called out for multiple lies. Politifact states he lies basically every time he opens his mouth. However, those are statements he makes. Not actual news.You see Mr. Ponce, whats I'm saying is he runs his mouth with these quick little comments that most of his Rushbo listeners take it as fact. Now as i was stating earlier, we all have opinions. I am no fan of Obama, but for Hannity and listeners to say Obama was intent on destroying America was totally out of line. Sure his ideology differs from yours and mine, but to destroy is absolutely ludicrous. And to blame Benghazi on Clinton and him was ridiculous. They didn't fly over there and rouse up the locals to attack. How they handled it afterwards may have been bad and showed true lack of leadership, Not that Obama was ever going to say anything negative against Islam. But again, the way they addressed their listeners would have made you think they were over there squeezing the trigger on the guns.

My point is, you don't spout the lies or twisting of truths they tell, but you have no reason to defend them either like they are saints. They are no different then the lying mainstream media they condemn. I'ts like watching to two little kids slinging your momma jokes when it comes to them.

Carlos Ponce

"Politifact states he lies basically every time he opens his mouth. " Politifact is a worthless piece of GARBAGE most of the time. I'm surprised you read it. Occasionally I will use them in reference when they get something partially correct. It depends on the author. When someone quotes Politifact I can point out the errors in their findings. Limbaugh gets called out? Consider the source. Leftist pundits! No one worth listening to. You can call them clowns all you want but please tell me something, ANYTHING they got wrong. Whenever you hear someone blasting Rush or Sean they usually take things out of context.

Lisa Gray

I am always amazed at how far some will tow that party line regarding ANY law or bill, but I'll bet if some transgendered man was in the restroom with their 6 year old daughter or granddaughter, they would feel completely different. I will wager that they will be right there with that child to ensure his or her safety. How on earth did we get to this point in society where one has to wonder about what bathroom they use and who may possibly be in there. It is completely ridiculous. Use the bathroom of your birth gender and if not, use the "family" bathroom.

Doyle Beard

Maybe the title of this article should be "Neil a Symbol of Texas Disfunctional ".
Citing a drughead and non facts. Oh well what do you expect when one has nothing to use for their defending an issue.

Doyle Beard

Really you dont know. Do a little studying and see. You are off since I am not and never was a Trump supporter just a supporter for facts.dont be a profiler Gary.

Carlos Ponce

Once the "bathroom bill" is enacted transexuals will not notice any difference if they bothered to get their birth certificates legally changed. I think there needs to be two boxes: Indicate gender at birth, indicate current gender.[wink]

Gary Scoggin

Actually, Carlos, this is the basis of a solution I can live with. I do agree that this is something not to be done on a whim but after deliberate thought and with some process.

Gary Scoggin

I worry a lot less about a transgendered person in the "wrong" bathroom than I do about the state of our educational system. Other than a few random anecdotes, can someone show me the bathroom thing is a real problem? Especially to the degree it's a priority legislative issue? Or is it just Danny Patrick serving up red meat to his like minded supporters?

Carlos Ponce

"I worry a lot less about a transgendered person in the "wrong" bathroom ..."
The bill is not aimed at them. It is aimed at sex predators and those who get their "jollies" by ogling and hearing women in the restroom. Strange but there are some out there who do that.[sad]

Jim Forsythe

If you look , you can find a wide spectrum as to were Texas ranks, on the  best and worst school systems rankings in the USA.   21 is a good   average number for Texas , so this go with it.  If middle of the road is OK, then we are doing great. If we want more for our students, then we have work to do.
Are we where we want to be on the economy, public education, infrastructure and uninsured children ?
Is the “bathroom bill” more important than addressing the Robin Hood plan ?
If the  currant legislative session is not going to work on it , because it not important enough, will they ever address it ?

"Once you say you're going to settle for second, that's what happens to you  in life."
  JFK


Carlos Ponce

Math lesson, Jim. Out of 50 states, 21 is above average.[beam]
Both bills mentioned are important. The "bathroom bill" is designed to protect women children and I suppose some men. It's important. Don't buy Neil''s claim that "the bathroom bill does absolutely nothing to make the life of any Texan better". If you knew anyone made uncomfortable or attacked in a public restroom by a member of the opposite sex you'd be singing the praises of this bill.

Doyle Beard

How long ago did the libs put in the Robin Hood bill? A liberal judge might havve been named justice and certainly did not live up to his name.

Mike Zeller

Dan Patrick found a solution, where there was no problem. Why waste your time fixing something that ain't broke.

Doyle Beard

Trying to abort problems in the future. Whomever came up with the idea to cause this bill to be written is a huge problem for Americans.

Carlos Ponce

"where there was no problem" Really Mike? A quick web search proves otherwise.

Diane Turski

Thank you for a common sense article! Elections have consequences! Vote for representatives that want to represent all Texans more than they want to represent themselves!

Doyle Beard

if skewed numbers are common sense , one has to love the article.

Paula Flinn

Good one, Diane! I agree!

Doyle Beard

goes for you too PF If skewed info makes commons sense then you are right. common sense

George Croix

Well, it is clear, straightforward, and simple...so 3 out of 4 ain't too bad.
Problem is, it's that way due to obfuscation...
Again...or, more accurately, still.....

"According to Governing Magazine, the Texas economy has dropped to 21st in the nation based on analysis of state unemployment rates, per capita GDPs, per capita personal income and job growth."

OK...but you neglected to mention that both the low or no skilled illegal invasion coupled with the last Admin.'s policies, especially those that impacted the refining and petrochemical industries and their support systems, are dragging down those items, and raising REAL unemployment, not the phony numbers that BOTH parties use.
Why was that not included.....? Oversight?

"Texas continues to rank in the bottom 10 states for education spending per student and according to the Texas Medical Association was the “uninsured capital of the United States with more than 4.3 million Texans including 623,000 children” unable to access health insurance coverage in 2015."

OK...but you neglected to mention that 'Uninsured' includes the millions of illegals as does the stretching of school funding and that 'Texans' and 'children'; are mentioned with ZERO reference to LEGAL residents/citizens.
Why was that not included....? Oversight?

Cherry picking and 'facts' that are...but yet, are not really........
Not much has changed there in the last, what is it, almost 30 years now since that last meeting.....
[beam][beam][whistling]

Jim Forsythe

To me "a good average number for Texas" and a average number for Texas are two different things
But that's not the point. The point, is being number 21 the place we want to be? If not being first is OK , then we are always going to be just OK, middle of the pack, about average.
This bill is just the easy way of not addressing the problem of School Financing.

"If you knew anyone made uncomfortable or attacked in a public restroom by a member of the opposite sex you'd singing the praises of this bill"  If a person wants to do bad in a restroom, this bill is going to stop them how? We already have laws that address attracts in restrooms.
Do more transgendered people or non transgendered people commit more crimes in bathrooms?
Gary asked,"can someone show me the bathroom thing is a real problem?" Can you?
How are you going to identify a  transgendered person?  Can you tell by looking, are they a transgender person, or a cross dresser?

George Croix

The point should be the criteria used to determine ranking.
Send a few million illegals to a 'good state' and see what happens to their 'good' numbers.....

And, does someone HAVE to commit a crime before common decency and simple courtesy to go P according to your privates kicks in? Does PC insanity HAVE to eat the brain completely away before enough is enough????
Here's a test: At YOUR home, is anyone invited to walk into the bathroom while your wife is en-throned, or is it OK for your daughter/son to have Uncle Larry/Aunt Mable P'g right next to them?
If it is, then I fully understand why you feel like you do.....

Jim Forsythe

What should the Texas State Senators spend their time on? "The Legislature of the State of Texas, operating under the biennial system, convenes its regular sessions at noon on the second Tuesday in January of odd-numbered years. The maximum duration of a regular session is 140 days."
What do you want them to concentrate on? Roads, schools funding, state spending, trying to bring new industry into Texas, plastic bags, voter fraud,  bathroom bill?
They have proven that they can not address all.  So which would be at the top of your list? Schools funding, state spending  are the issues that I want them to address.

We already have laws that address bad acts in restrooms. How is this bill going to change the percentage of people that are sexuality assaulted? Is this bill going to change the man on man and woman on woman attacks?
Can you tell if a person is a cross dresser or transgender person? Most can not. At work the person I knew that was a cross dresser , most could not tell when they were dressed as a woman (not at work) .

Carlos Ponce

"What do you want them to concentrate on? Roads, schools funding, state spending, trying to bring new industry into Texas, plastic bags, voter fraud, bathroom bill?"
ALL OF THE ABOVE.
"Can you tell if a person is a cross dresser or transgender person? Most can not." My point exactly. If they look the part and act properly, who's to know? But if they look like Cpl. Klinger.....It's only when they make an illegal move can you throw the book at them.
Did you really think Tom Hanks made a convincing Buffy Wilson? You can tell he was just dressing up.
As you could tell Tony Curtis, Jack Lemmon, Dwayne Hickman, Dustin Hoffman, Ron Howard, etc were all men. A convincing person was Robin Williams as Mrs. Doubtfire but that was heavy prosthetics and acting. Most men would look like Jamie Farr. [scared]
Now "White Chicks" looked WEIRD.[scared][scared][scared]

George Croix

"Can you tell if a person is a cross dresser or transgender person? Most can not."

Thanks for reinforcing my point, Jim.
It CAN be near if not totally impossible to tell, so unless all those folks have been holding it in since birth, there's not a single good reason for all the PC crap some of them have started with the usual codependent cheering section along for the ride.
Simply shut up and go P, just like always.
It's NOT a case of 'violation of rights' or any other such non sense, it's a case of a minuscule few demanding that their 'self-identification' be validated and accommodated by ALL others.
Then it even got to the point that some want to be able to 'identify' whenever and whatever they want. Then some want to be able to have co-ed locker facilities so they don't get their feelings hurt.
it's not illegal to go along with such silliness, but it's also unfixable...imho.....
SUAGP.

Shut Up And Go P.

Know it.
Learn it.
Live it.


[whistling]

Jim Forsythe

"who's to know? " we both agree about this, so what's the need of a law, if you can not tell !
"It's only when they make an illegal move can you throw the book at The book already has laws against sexual assault. If you can not tell, then maybe cross dresser and transgender people are already using restrooms.
The only way to tell, would be to look under stalls.
Does the bathroom bill include cross dressers?

Will this ever happen?
Sunday, October 30, 2016      
"Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said the state of Texas can’t continue to fund schools the way it has in the past, but that an attempt to completely overhaul the system will require the governor calling a special session.
Patrick told the Reporter-Telegram after his appearance at the Permian Basin Petroleum Association’s annual meeting Thursday that he doesn’t expect the so-called “Robin Hood” school funding system can be addressed during the regular session. He said there are too many bills and too many other items to occupy lawmakers’ time."


Carlos Ponce

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck quacks like a duck then consider it a duck. But when it begins to crow you know you don't have a duck.[tongue]

George Croix

THERE WAS NO NEED, Jim, before the Perpetually Aggrieved had to drag up yet another phony 'cause' to whine about and demand universal acceptance of.
The bill is reaction to, not genesis of, the silliness of what anyone decides to 'identify' as when applied to lockers and restrooms....
I say again, if you can't figure it out yourself, yank your BVD band out, and if you see anything, go to the Boys Room, and if not, go to the Girls Room, or lockers, etc....
OR, better yet, why not just shut up and go P like has been happening since able to P unassisted......
It's very 'progressive' to either start or support such mindless drivel...imho...then B about anyone not wanting to go along with it....
If you want YOUR little Lucy in YOUR can with Uncle Fred, or little Johnny with Aunt Frida, that's YOUR business.
So, kindly mind the business that's yours......

Jim Forsythe

Is the Texas bathroom bill a need because we have a problem , or a "preventative" measure and was not spurred by a specific incident?
"Several states, including Arizona, Florida, Texas and Kentucky, have considered or are considering enacting so-called "bathroom bills," which restrict transgender people from using the bathroom in line with their gender identity, and are framed as "protective" measures against "sexual predators." 
But these bills are not protective. They're vehicles for instilling fear of trans and gender-nonconforming people. For example, Florida State Representative Frank Artiles (R), who sponsored the Single Sex Public Facilities bill (HB 583), did not provide any evidence that a trans person has ever attacked cisgender (non-transgender) people in public restrooms when pressed by BuzzFeed in February. On his blog, Artiles wrote that this bill is a "preventative" measure and was not spurred by a specific incident."
Whom has a higher chance of a problem, cisgender (non-transgender), or a transgender person?
One in every two transgender people has been sexually victimized, and usually more than once, often many, many times. For example in: San Francisco (59 percent), Philadelphia (54 percent), Chicago (52 percent) the numbers are staggering, and multiple national studies show numbers even higher (ranging from 40 to 66 percent).

Below is a link to a person that looks male. Is this  why we need  this bill? To keep this person in the women's restroom?
Hey #GOP how do I explain to women in the bathrooms that you want me in there with them? @PatMcCroryNC @DanPatrick

Carlos Ponce

" 'bathroom bills,' which restrict transgender people from using the bathroom in line with their gender identity" False premise. The bill is NOT, repeat NOT aimed at the transgendered. That's just a Liberal lie spread by the Liberal media. If the transsexual gets their birth certificate legally altered there is no problem.
“This issue is not about discrimination — it’s about public safety, protecting businesses and common sense. I congratulate Sen. Kolkhorst for filing SB 6 and for her commitment to protecting the privacy of Texans and keeping them safe.” Lt Gov Dan Patrick
"Supporters of the bill claim it's about safety — namely, keeping sexual predators out of bathrooms. Without the law, Patrick and others have argued, men could pose as transgender women in order to enter women's bathrooms and commit crimes. Kolkhorst has denied that the bill discriminates against transgender people. Notably, the word "transgender" does not appear anywhere in the language of the bill."
http://www.businessinsider.com/texas-bathroom-bill-what-is-sb6-2017-3

George Croix

Jim, they just might spend their time on the important stuff if every PC character with a 'cause' wasn't constantly jumping up 'demanding' this or that, at the expense of 9.9 out of 10 others.....It's like an everlasting Whine-a-Thon day in and day out.....
I'm pretty sure that the Texas Legislature is like most others in that the low hanging fruit is grabbed first. The utter nonsense about where to P was NOT started by state legislatures..it was started by people who think 'identifying' beats biology, and feelings beat decorum.
Give 'em a hug and a coloring book, and let 'em go P where they have been all their lives, and shut up about it....
Then apply a boot to the weak-willed, opportunistic legislature butts once the distraction is gone if no good is done.....
Until then, it's simply a case of the clowns causing a problem then griping about the circus...imho.....

ps:
Still waiting to hear how the folks so upset by this bill would handle their own home potty situations....or hell freezes over, with the latter more likely......

Jim Forsythe

Unattended  consequences  happen when the government try to control what happens.
"A transgender teenager won a Texas state title for girls wrestling on Saturday — even though the wrestler, 17-year-old Mack Beggs, identifies as a boy"  Mack wanted to be on the boys team , but the UIL said Mack had to compete as a female.

After all the uproar , it may not even pass. 
" SB 6, the powerful State Affairs committee is a likely destination. The committee's chairman, Republican state Rep. Byron Cook, indicated Thursday that the legislation would probably receive a hearing if his committee received it, but he was far from enthusiastic about the proposal. 
“I think this is a situation that’s been taken care of for a long time thoughtfully [and] respectfully,” Cook said, referring to the issue of bathroom use by transgender people in schools and other public building. Referencing Republican concerns that men would take advantage of trans-inclusive bathroom policies for nefarious reasons, Cook added: “The good news is we haven’t seen evidence of major safety issues. There’s no information to support that.”
That puts Cook in line with Straus  (House Speaker Joe Straus) ,who has said he is not a fan of the bathroom regulations and has warned that lawmakers should be “very careful” about doing anything that would negatively impact the state’s economic competitiveness"


Gary Scoggin

Once again, Joe Straus proves he's the only adult in the room when it comes to the leadership of our state. Moe, Larry and Shemp -- oops, I mean Patrick, Abbott and Paxon -- are as bad as I've ever seen. I never thought I'd miss Rick Perry.

Carlos Ponce

"are as bad as I've ever seen". Study the Democratic leaders of Texas, Gary. Don't be surprised that Patrick, Abbott and Paxton look like choir boys by comparison.

Gary Scoggin

Choir boys -- good description. They've got the sense and maturity of adolescents. Paxon isn't even smart enough to know its illegal to commit fraud.

Carlos Ponce

Gary, you keep thinking what you're thinking. Your overt partisanship and that of other Liberals is why Galveston County and the rest of Texas votes Republican.I find it.entertaining.

Gary Scoggin

Carlos. You use the word "liberal" like it's a bad thing. Actually, I consider myself a moderate, but to many conservatives, moderates seem like liberals. At any rate, I'm happy to keep you amused. Have a good day.

Carlos Ponce

"liberal" with a lower case "l" isn't bad. Liberal as political ideology tells me you are very liberal with other people's money. Liberals consider themselves "mainstream", ie everyone thinks as they do. Nothing can be farther from the truth as evidenced by voter turnout in Texas especially Galveston County. "Moderate" means you can tolerate the views of Conservatives and maybe adopt some of them. I have a friend who votes Democrat but thinks the rule of law should prevail when it comes to illegal immigration. I consider her a "moderate".

Paula Flinn

"...Parick, Abbott and Paxton -- are as bad as I've ever seen. I never thought I'd miss Rick Perry." My very loud laugh for the day! Thanks, Gary!

George Croix

Let's hope voyeurism never becomes another Great Cause that must be defended lest 1% of the population be inconvenienced or denied their 'rights', because we might limit the states economic competitiveness trying to maintain some sense of morality and decorum....
That would give Joe another bottom dollar to stand on, so maybe it wouldn't be a total loss......


George Croix

ps:
Personally, I can't get enthusiastic about forcing people to do what I'd never allow to happen in my own home, but...that's just me.....

George Croix

My dictionary must be defective.
It only lists one definition of illegal....
Goose.
Gander.
[whistling]

Willis Briggs

I'm going to have to agree with George, SHUT UP and go P just like you always have.
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