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September 25, 2016

Potpourri When to flesh out and when to flush

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  • seamus posted at 9:17 am on Mon, May 19, 2014.

    seamus Posts: 282

    Writers seem to have an ongoing problem with rein and reign—specifically with the phrases "rein in" and "give free rein to." Both refer to the leather strap used to control a horse.

    Reign is a synonym for the rule of a king or queen.

    Don't get me started on lie/lay/laid/lain, etc This is a lost cause.

    - Jim

  • gecroix posted at 9:54 am on Mon, May 19, 2014.

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    The author is talking about the English language.
    Speaking Texan has a few differences...[wink]

  • seamus posted at 11:04 am on Mon, May 19, 2014.

    seamus Posts: 282

    I moved to Texas at age 40, so I had some catching up to do. Someone gave me a book with the title "how to speak Southern."

    I quit saying "pop" in favor of "soda," but I never could wrap my head around calling every carbonated beverage "Coke."

    Also tea, in my book, is hot.

    - Jim

  • vic krc posted at 9:30 pm on Wed, May 21, 2014.

    vic krc Posts: 296

    Is "y'all" one word, or two?

  • carlosrponce posted at 10:03 pm on Wed, May 21, 2014.

    carlosrponce Posts: 6184

    I typed "y'all" into Microsoft Word. Under TOOLS I went to Word Count. It reported there was only 1 word in the document. "y'all" is one word.

  • gecroix posted at 10:22 pm on Wed, May 21, 2014.

    gecroix Posts: 6168

    In East Texas I was taught that it was "ya'll", to be pronounced 'yawl', or 'yaawwl', and could be either singular or plural, and was non-gender specific. And, for that matter, not even specifically designated as unique to addressing homo sapiens. Works as well for beasts, birds, reptiles, and even 'progressives' and other non-categorized life forms...[wink]
    Also, there is only ONE carbonated beverage...Diet Coke.
    All other carbonated liquids are pretenders to greatness, to be tolerated ONLY if no Diet Coke is available, and ONLY if death by thirst is imminent.

  • vic krc posted at 9:24 am on Thu, May 22, 2014.

    vic krc Posts: 296

    I am glad to know I am not the only Diet Coke junkie out there.

    I think the word is used in some middle eastern names like Ibn Y'all Masoud. [beam]

    One thing that this column did not talk about was the confusion between "gender" and "sex". For some reason liberals have decided to change the ages -long English language usage of the word "sex" to distinguish male from female to the word "gender" so as to be "non - sexist" (go figure). This is supposedly to purge us from thinking about the obvious differences between the sexes because "gender" it is a more neutral term.

    During my school years I was exposed to the Latin (Kirwin High School) and German (U of H) languages, both of which have grammars that assign gender to nouns - masculine, feminine, and neuter. The use of the word "gender" is most proper when used in the context of grammar in certain languages and "sex" when distinguishing male from female, among other things.


  • gecroix posted at 10:14 am on Thu, May 22, 2014.

    gecroix Posts: 6168

    Liberals are confused about a lot of things, and 'progressives' about everything...[wink]

    Yes, I never quite got the concept of a 'female table' .
    My reason for taking German was to learn enough to figure out what the bad guys on the old 'Combat' TV show with Vic Morrow were saying.
    Looonng ago...

  • vic krc posted at 12:37 pm on Thu, May 22, 2014.

    vic krc Posts: 296

    So a progressive is a liberal on steroids? I was kinda under the impression that since the term "liberal" acquired so many negative vibes in our society and culture that they want now to be known as "progressives".

    Sorta like atheists now days want to be called "brights". I think it was either Richard Dawkins or Daniel Dennett that proposed that designation in one of their fairly recent books. I am not sure if this is catching on with our media friends or not.

    Would a skunk smell differently if we called it a rose?

    Sounds like you and I are of a "certain age". Too bad what happened to Vic Morrow - it was a nasty way to go.

  • gecroix posted at 2:00 pm on Thu, May 22, 2014.

    gecroix Posts: 6168

    Yes, Vic and the poor children he was holding, also.

    'Progressives' are on something...for sure...[wink]

    At 63, I've yet to have my core values 'evolve', and a spade that belonged to my Dad is still one, having yet to require another descriptive word.
    I am blessed that no one in my family feels any need at all to speak PC.... [beam]

  • vic krc posted at 2:16 pm on Thu, May 22, 2014.

    vic krc Posts: 296

    67 and holding (on)....

    I forgot what it was like to be your age....[smile]

  • mickphalen posted at 7:48 am on Fri, May 23, 2014.

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    In the coal fields of WVa, "y'all" was the only accepted form for more than one "you". Didn't know Coke, Pepsi, Nehi, RC Cola, by any other name than "pop", and didn't know paper bags were anything other than "pokes".

    First time I went "up north" (to the PA border), I found they had bastardized proper English language - changing the correct "y'all" to "you'ns" (they didn't know how to spell it either).

    Don't get me started on my first trip to Brookyn ...

  • gecroix posted at 10:08 am on Fri, May 23, 2014.

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    In the part of East Texas that I stepped on pine cones in, a 'poke' was a tow sack, or burlap bag for the upper crust, or gunny sack for the elites...[smile]
    For the folks who didn't use the All Encompassing 'Coke', there was 'soda water'... pronounced soda warrter, or for the way-back-in-the-woods folks, 'sody waarrter'.
    Then, we washed clothes with 'warshing powwder'.
    Changed the 'awl' in our trucks.
    And, things we were unfamiliar with were 'unnewzhul', or unusual for the picky.
    If we were going to visit out parents at their home, we were going to 'mammanems'.
    If we were asking if someone wanted to do something, it was 'yawntto?'
    The affirmative reply was 'iiiite'.
    The negative 'naaww'.
    Is it any wonder I suck at writing and spelling...[wink]

  • carlosrponce posted at 10:39 am on Fri, May 23, 2014.

    carlosrponce Posts: 6184

    Only a True Texans would use the phrase "fixin' to". " I'm fixin' to go work", I'm fixin' to go shopping", etc. Pardon me, I'm fixin' to go vote.

  • vic krc posted at 10:49 am on Fri, May 23, 2014.

    vic krc Posts: 296


  • gecroix posted at 12:12 pm on Fri, May 23, 2014.

    gecroix Posts: 6168

    Is there some other way to indicate preparation to do something besides saying 'fixin'?
    In this country, I mean...

  • vic krc posted at 12:20 pm on Fri, May 23, 2014.

    vic krc Posts: 296

    I'm gonna.......

    I'm gunna.....


  • carlosrponce posted at 12:39 pm on Fri, May 23, 2014.

    carlosrponce Posts: 6184

    " I am going to", " I'm preparing to", or even "I'd like to".
    If a preference is involved, "I would prefer to". Followers of Al Capp say "I druther".

  • vic krc posted at 12:47 pm on Fri, May 23, 2014.

    vic krc Posts: 296

    Here I go again...

    When I hear "fixin' to" it usually means to me that whatever is being spoken about is going to happen within a short period of time with a high probability of occurrence.

    When I hear "gonna" or "gunna" I think back to those happier mists of time when my son was a teenager. He used "gonna" or "gunna" when the topic of conversation was his schoolwork and when he was going to start working on it. Usually the time period that elapsed before he started was indefinite and the probability of occurrence at all was just short of 50 - 50.

  • Jake Buckner posted at 2:54 pm on Fri, May 23, 2014.

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    Depends on what part of Houston you're from. In the part I came from, about half the population said "I'm gonna" when they meant "I'm going to." The other half said "Imo," pronounced eye-mow, as in "Imo kick yo @ss."

    Can't remember if it was Bill Cosby, Richard Pryor, or Eddie Murphey who first pointed this out to the world at large.

  • gecroix posted at 3:22 pm on Fri, May 23, 2014.

    gecroix Posts: 6168

    Ever notice how many of those potential 'kickers' really just want to talk loud, then retreat, declaring victory...?
    Future politician material, all...[beam]

  • jackcross posted at 9:36 pm on Sat, May 24, 2014.

    jackcross Posts: 484

    I married an East Texas Gal ,so that language up there was new to me when they started talking about a Whoppie which they called an old car. You would hear one of them ask about someone and they would say, you know " I haven't seen, heard or tell of him. Comming from Galveston in the late 30's and 40s when I was growing up, everyone was a democrat including me who later was a precinct chair, everyone loved Roosefelt and hated Hoover.
    They didn't hate republicans because they never saw one or no one dared to say he was a republican. It was the democrats in the South who fought the civil rights movement and started the dixie crats but I have to give the democrats credit for convencing the public that the republicans did all that. The democrats have benifited greatly by receiving about 95 percent of the African American voters who never hold them accountable.

  • gecroix posted at 10:19 pm on Sat, May 24, 2014.

    gecroix Posts: 6168

    Yes, you can persuade a lot of people to believe anything if there's a tangible payout for them in it, or at least the potential for one.
    Reagan said it best when he opined that our Democrat friends ...know a lot that just isn't so...