Once again Texas Republicans prove they care more about re-election than taxpayer dollars, the rule of law or basic human decency. Their latest disaster, the Sanctuary City Bill, would be almost funny if it wasn’t for the fact that it will increase crime, subject police officers to criminal liability and almost certainly be struck down by federal courts.

For those of you who try to ignore the Texas legislature’s biennial exercise in stupidity, the story goes like this. Sanctuary cities have existed for thousands of years even drawing mention in the Hebrew Old Testament. In America’s early years, sanctuary cities refused to return escaped slaves to their southern masters. In the 1980s, America’s sanctuary cities refused to surrender Central American refugees fleeing violence to the federal government.

Naturally, Republicans found a way to stigmatize sanctuary cities for political gain in the 2008 Republican presidential primary when Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani fought over whether New York provided sanctuary to undocumented aliens during Giuliani’s mayoral tenure. Since then opportunistic Republican campaign managers have played the dual fear and race card to raise money from a Republican right wing base, who, despite massive gun collections continue to be afraid of their own shadows and anybody with skin color darker than their own.

Currently the phrase “sanctuary city” remains difficult to define but generally refers to cities that limit cooperation with federal immigration authorities by prohibiting police from asking about immigration status and refusing to hold undocumented aliens indefinitely for pick up by Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

According to the Center for Immigration Studies, Texas has exactly zero sanctuary cities which, of course, makes it the perfect target for Republican lawmakers desperately hanging on to shrinking electoral margins. Apparently, not satisfied with the fact that three different federal courts have slapped them down for passing intentionally discriminatory redistricting and voter ID laws, the Republican dominated legislature, led by the three stooges, Abbott, Patrick and Paxton, has passed another heartless and illegal law.

This time the legislature is strong arming local jurisdictions into following the Republican Party line on immigration status. Texas will now criminally charge sheriffs, constables and police chiefs who refuse to hold noncitizens for immigration authorities. Texas will assess daily fines of $25,000 against noncomplying local jurisdictions and will remove from office and even jail noncomplying elected officials. Most dangerously, channeling their inner Sheriff Joe Arpaio or perhaps Vladimir Putin, the legislature has authorized police to interrogate any legally detained person regarding their immigration status even if that person is not arrested.

Now I know out there in the magical thinking world of the Republican base plenty of people are eagerly posting their approval on the internet. I also know in the real world where parents and children need to trust local police for protection from real criminals this law will tear families apart, destroy community trust in local police, make us all less safe and of course result in yet another court striking down yet another Texas law as intentionally discriminatory.

Neil G. Baron

, an attorney and former League City Councilman, is writing columns from a progressive perspective.

(38) comments

Carlos Ponce

"According to the Center for Immigration Studies, Texas has exactly zero sanctuary cities."
If Neil would BOTHER to look at the map of sanctuary cities provided by the CIS he would see sanctuary cities in Texas; Austin and Dallas.
http://cis.org/Sanctuary-Cities-Map

Dan Freeman

Sorry Carlos. The map shows no cities in Texas. It does show two counties, Dallas County, Travis County, that contain Dallas and Austin. So you both strike out.

Carlos Ponce

Dallas is in Dallas County, Austin in Travis County. Both are identified as Sanctuary Counties. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
The point is that Neil chose the vernacular "Sanctuary Cities BIll" to say HA, HA, there are no sanctuary cities listed by the CIS. But the actual Bill HB 149 doesn't just say "cities":
"A BILL TO BE ENTITLED AN ACT relating to the enforcement by certain governmental entities of state and federal laws governing immigration.
"Local entity" means:the governing body of a municipality, county,
or special district or authority, an officer or employee of or a division, department, or other body that is part of a municipality, county, or special district or authority, including a sheriff, municipal police department, municipal attorney, or county attorney; and a district attorney or criminal district attorney"
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/85R/billtext/pdf/HB00149I.pdf#navpanes=0

Doyle Beard

So in reality there are 2 cities or more that are sanctuary cities in a sanctuary county. no matter how you look at it. Your spin as usual. Another liberal that advocates breaking the rules of law.

Josh Butler

Once again, another smug liberal. People get tired of snark and smugness.

Josh Butler

Your smugness does not help you get your opinions across effectively, either.

Kelly Naschke

If we don't have immigration law...we don't have a country. This is part of the progressive plan...destroy our country in favor of globalization and open borders. Conspiracy theorists that warned of a New World Order don't seem so whacky anymore...but rather quite on the mark with their predictions. Do we want our government run from Brussels....or do WE prefer to run it ourselves?? It's really as simple as that. Open borders and the failed EU have ruined Europe.

Jim Forsythe

If you believe the Conspiracy theorists and the  NWO, you may like the following.
Was this ,Trumps play book?
“It Can’t Happen Here” book (1935)
“The main character, Buzz Windrip, appeals to voters with a mix of crass language and nativist ideology. Once elected, he solidifies his power by energizing his base against immigrants, people on welfare, and the liberal press. The novel has been called “frighteningly contemporary” in the wake of the Trump campaign and election.”  

Conspiracy theorists
"During the 2004 presidential election, the Republican and Democratic candidates were both former Bonesmen, though neither would say much about the subject. "It's a secret," John Kerry said when asked about his membership; "So secret, I can't say anything more," George W. Bush wrote in his autobiography, as if to complete Kerry's sentence."
New World Order
"Trump is "Illuminati". How do i know? Well, 1st he's on the cover of Time magazine (also, part of the illuminati) and 2nd, notice the placement of the words: "Deal with it.", conveniently placed over 1 eye. 
If you dig deep enough, you'll see the same names pop up, when it comes to "history"; whether it be the Federal Reserve or Hitler; the same names are involved; in some way, shape or form. "

After World War II and until the 1980s, Trump's father claimed the family was of Swedish rather than German origin, because "he had a lot of Jewish tenants and it wasn't a good thing to be German in those days", a nephew told The New York Times. In his 1987 book, The Art of the Deal, Donald Trump continued to claim Swedish heritage.

Carlos Ponce

"Trump is 'Illuminati'. How do i know? Well, 1st he's on the cover of Time magazine (also, part of the illuminati)"
The following Presidents were also on the cover of "Time": Abraham Lincoln, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Donald J. Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Franklin D. Roosevelt, George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, George Washington, Gerald Ford, Harry S. Truman, Herbert Hoover, Jimmy Carter, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Thomas Jefferson, William Howard Taft
Are ALL "Illuminati"?
Queen Elizabeth was on the cover of Time. Is she "Illuminati"?
By the way, the politician in "It Can’t Happen Here” is likened to Huey Long of Louisiana.

Jim Forsythe

You forgot , 2nd, notice the placement of the words: "Deal with it.", conveniently placed over 1 eye.

Carlos Ponce

Uh, huh. Someone's tin foil hat is on too tight.[scared]

Jim Forsythe

"It Can’t Happen Here” is likened to Huey Long of Louisiana." It was written about long, but some think, it is now a closer fit to Trump. If you look at Long and Trump , and they are very much alike.
 
“Donald Trump would fit in real good with Huey Long,  I mean, you know, one of the things that we have done in Louisiana is kind of add some color to the word ‘colorful,’ and no matter what you think about The Donald, you got to say he’s spicing it up,” Landrieu said at the National Press Club."

"Long and Trump similarly made/make outrageous claims of what they could do when elected, offering vague programs that showed/show little regard for the accuracy of their statements.
Long had enormous support in Louisiana because of the similarity of his audience and his ability to speak to them. The state was a basket case; most people were in the same desperate condition.

Trump has a much more diverse and larger group of citizens to target, but his appeal is strongest with the same subset of people. Trump’s bombast, belligerence, insults, arrogance and completely unfounded claims of expertise about everything seem to add to his many admirers."

Trump, Long both fit the part of Berzelius “Buzz” Windrip.
With his careful mix of plainspoken honesty and reactionary delusion, Trump is following an old rhetorical playbook, one defined and employed successfully in the 1936 presidential campaign of Senator Berzelius “Buzz” Windrip. In his campaign’s promotional book “Zero Hour,” Windrip laid out the classic nativist call to action that Trump would pick up nearly word-for-word:
"My one ambition is to get all Americans to realize that they are, and must continue to be, the greatest Race on the face of this old Earth, and second, to realize that whatever apparent differences there may be among us, in wealth, knowledge, skill, ancestry or strength–though, of course, all this does not apply to people who are racially different from us–we are all brothers, bound together in the great and wonderful bond of National Unity, for which we should all be very glad."


Carlos Ponce

"but some think, it is now a closer fit to Trump"
Not really that many think that - only a few at the New York Times and Time magazine. They're promoting it but it hasn't caught on except for some of their extreme Leftist readers.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos did you read the first line.
If you believe the Conspiracy theorists and the  NWO, you may like the following.

Jim Forsythe

Kelly
We can go with Isolationism or globalization. Is it  isolationism ,unilateralism or non-interventionism that you like to see .

While some scholars,  believe that the United States has an isolationist history, other scholars dispute this by describing the United States as following a strategy of unilateralism or non-interventionism instead

Unilateralism is any doctrine or agenda that supports one-sided action. Such action may be in disregard for other parties, or as an expression of a commitment toward a direction which other parties may find agreeable. Unilateralism is a neologism which is already in common use; it was coined to be an antonym for multilateralism, which is the doctrine which asserts the benefits of participation from as many parties as possible

Non-interventionism, the diplomatic policy whereby a nation seeks to avoid alliances with other nations in order to avoid being drawn into wars not related to direct territorial self-defense, has had a long history of popularity in the government and among the people of the United States at various periods in time.

Is it all of globalization you would do away with , or just part of it?
"This current wave of globalization has been driven by policies that have opened economies domestically and internationally. In the years since the Second World War, and especially during the past two decades, many governments have adopted free-market economic systems, vastly increasing their own productive potential and creating myriad new opportunities for international trade and investment. Governments also have negotiated dramatic reductions in barriers to commerce and have established international agreements to promote trade in goods, services, and investment. Taking advantage of new opportunities in foreign markets, corporations have built foreign factories and established production and marketing arrangements with foreign partners. A defining feature of globalization, therefore, is an international industrial and financial business structure."

Is this part of globalization you like, trade?
Republican lawmakers are urging President Trump to proceed cautiously on the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) after he shocked leaders in Canada and Mexico by threatening to pull out of the 23-year-old accord
They immediately registered their alarm with the administration after word leaked last week that Trump was considering an executive order to pull out of the trade accord.
Senate Finance Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), who has jurisdiction over trade and customs, said he was troubled by news of the order and "raised some concerns, too," with the administration.

Kelly Naschke

Jim,
My brother in law is a missionary that's not only taking care of kids in aTrujillo, Honduras, but also building a school. The Honduran government hasn't granted him citizenship....and he has the leave the country every 90 days. Why is that????

Jose' Boix

Kelly, as a naturalized US Citizen, I worked in Spain (with a working Permit/Visa) and their laws required that we (myself & family) go out the Spain and re-enter every so many months. A similar requirement seemingly.

Jim Forsythe

Kelly, he is classified as a tourist. look at the clip at http://buyroatan.blogs.com/tjs_roatan_real_estate_bl/2010/02/relocating-to-roatan-residency-and-working-in-honduras.html    it answers your question  

HONDURAN CITIZENSHIP: Citizenship laws are based upon the Honduran Constitution.
BY BIRTH:
Child born within the territory of Honduras, regardless of the nationality of the parents. Children of diplomats are excluded.
Child born on a Honduran vessel or aircraft of war or on a merchant vessel located in Honduran territorial waters, regardless of the nationality of the parents.
BY DESCENT: Child born abroad, at least one of whose parents is a citizen of Honduras.
BY NATURALIZATION: Honduran nationality may be acquired by:
Central American by birth who has resided one year in Honduras.
Spaniards and Spanish-Americans by birth who have resided two years in Honduras.
Any person who has resided in Honduras for at least three years.
Person who has married a Honduran citizen (by birth).
Person granted citizenship by the Honduran National Congress.
Person admitted to Honduras for economic reasons, who has resided in Honduras for at least one year.
HONDURAN DUAL CITIZENSHIP:  Permitted.  The following may possess dual citizenship:
Child of Honduran citizens born abroad.
Honduran who acquires foreign citizenship by marriage.
Person granted citizenship by act of the National Congress.
Citizens of countries with which Honduras has dual nationality treaties.
Hondurans seeking citizenship of countries with which Honduras has dual nationality treaty.
LOSS OF CITIZENSHIP: The citizenship of those whose citizenship was acquired through marriage, and that of their children, is not revoked upon dissolution of that marriage.
VOLUNTARY: Permitted under Honduran law. Send letters of renunciation to Honduran Embassy.
INVOLUNTARY: The following is grounds for involuntary loss of Honduran citizenship: Person voluntarily acquires foreign citizenship and does not fall under the dual citizenship exceptions.

Kelly Naschke

Jim,
Why does Honduras have immigration laws???

Kelly Naschke

Oh ... Jim... sorry..: i forgot to mention... he is married to a Honduran that immigrated LEGALLY..and is a dual citizen of the US and Honduras. Let's see you copy and paste this one....

Kelly Naschke

And don't forget...the question is WHY does Honduras have immigration law.

Jim Forsythe

If he has  citizen of the US and Honduras , then the statement "Honduran government hasn't granted him citizenship" was misstated.....

As I do not know anyone that works in the Honduran  Embassy, so I can not help you with a name. if it was Peru , I may have been able to help you.

He needs to contact the  U.S. Embassy in Honduras    
Avenida La Paz
Tegucigalpa M.D.C.
Honduras
Phone: (504) 2236-9320
Fax: (504) 2236-9037

Jim Forsythe

Kelly,.
I think your question is, what I would do about over stayers.
First require all jobs to use E-Verify for hiring, including lawn care and such, and if anyone hires someone with out it, then jail the one that hired them, along with the one that was hired. 
Require all banking and money orders to use  E-Verify to ID person .
Require all jobs to pay with check made out to a USA bank or direct deposit into USA bank. 
Require all person on visas to report every week . If they do not report , deport. 40% of over stayers are on visas
Require all jobs to go to USA citizen first. If its a job that a person can be train for , than they would need to do so.
Change the, you were born on USA soil ,you are now a citizen.
Use IRIS scanner ,Fingerprint scanning, facial recognition system for anyone coming the USA. Then use this technology for identifying
while in the USA.


Kelly Naschke

Jim,
The question was "WHY does Honduras have immigration law". That's a pretty clear cut question. How about a clear cut answer?

Kelly Naschke

Also Jim, I didn't misstate anything. Apparently you didn't comprehend that I said HIS wife is s Honduran that immigrated LEGALLY, and was awarded her US citizenship. The question still remains "WHY does Honduras (or any country for that matter) have immigration law?

Jim Forsythe

Why do countrys have laws? What country do you want to talk about? Each one has different  reasons for what they do

Jim Forsythe

Your brother should able obtain citizenship He should be able to use this part of  the code for Honduras
BY NATURALIZATION: Honduran nationality may be acquired by: Person who has married a Honduran citizen (by birth).

If not, he needs to contact a lawyer.

Jim Forsythe

 I tried to help you with your brother in law the best I could. I do no of know the history of Honduras  immigration laws.
I have only know 3 people from Honduras, and we do not discuss immigration  laws for Honduras
If you want to discuss USA immigration law, we can do that. We can talk about when the USA had our first immigration law, and how it changed the USA. Why did we have different groups come to the USA for labor. How mail order brides played a part. The orphan train, and how it changed the location of children. The trail of tears, and why it happen.
Ellis Island and the12 million immigrants  , and Galveston's part in immigration  for the USA .

I can help you with  Middle Eastern history , but  your best source of Honduran laws and history would be your Sister in Law, as she is a Honduran.

Kelly Naschke

In other words....answering my simple question as to why Honduras, or any other country has immigration law, doesn't fit your narrative, so you opt to NOT answer the question.

Kelly Naschke

Let's try another question. Why is it permissible for Honduras to enforce its immigration law...but NOT permissible for the United States to enforce its laws?

Jim Forsythe

Kelly
We can go with Isolationism or globalization. Is it  isolationism ,unilateralism or non-interventionism that you like to see .
Do you have a answer?

Why is it permissible for Honduras to enforce its immigration law  ...but NOT permissible for the United States to enforce its laws? I have no clue if  Honduras  enforces its immigration law
Which law are asking about ? Over staying of visas which we choose not to address this.This is the source of about 40% of people in the USA that should not be here. Rework the visa program.
. Is your question about the ones that are coming from our protected territories which account 5% of our problem.
The ones that are flying in to Hawaii  and overstaying? Are you talking about the ones crossing boarders ,it  to up to us to decide how to handle this.
Is it permissible for the United States to enforce its laws  , yes we can, if as a group we decided to. The following is what I would do , what would you do? What your plan, Kelly?

 First require all jobs to use E-Verify for hiring, including lawn care and such, and if anyone hires someone with out it, then jail the one that hired them, along with the one that was hired. 
Require all banking and money orders to use  E-Verify to ID person .
Require all jobs to pay with check, made out to a USA bank or direct deposit into USA bank. 
Require all person on visas to report every week . If they do not report , deport. 40% of over stayers are on visas
Require all jobs to go to USA citizen first. If its a job that a person can be trained for , than they would need to do so.
Change the, you were born on USA soil ,you are now a citizen.
Use IRIS scanner ,Fingerprint scanning, facial recognition system for anyone coming the USA. Then use this technology for identifying
while in the USA

Kelly Naschke

Never mind Jim. It was a simple question that warranted a simple answer. I won't ask a fifth time. Your inability to give an answer unwittingly proves my point for me. Thank you.

Jose' Boix

Just a question: What is the "official way" anyone - say driving - who gets stopped can prove citizenship? Show what papers? Driver license?

Jim Forsythe

Good question!

Jim Forsythe

"It was a simple question " What is the question. You have jump around , and it makes it hard to know ,what you want to know.

"unwittingly proves my point " and your point is what? is very unclear what your point is .If your point" is NOT permissible for the United States to enforce its laws ", then that is not true.
Is about Honduras , I have answered the best I can
immigration plan, I gave you my plan , what is yours?
. Is about "We can go with Isolationism or globalization. Is it  isolationism ,unilateralism or non-interventionism that you like to see ".
Do you have a answer, as you have failed to even tried to answer.,
 

Jack Cross

If you are undocumented (illegal) and go to UTMB emergency room for treatment or any public hospital. The Hospital can't ask you to pay ,they can't even ask you to provide any papers. An american citizen can't get away with this, in fact Ben Taub which is a public hospital but in a Hospital District filed suit against American citizens a few years ago to force them to pay because they lived outside the hospital district. These same hospitals deliver babies for foreign nationals and the Feds pay 60 percent and Medicaid pays 40 percent. UTMB considers them sponsored patients which is their word for insured. Same with school. no questions or papers asked. No wonder we have a school funding crisis with 43 percent of students Hispanic. I would suspect that the police have the same restrictions place on them. I often wonder when we see these crimes committed by Hispanic in the newspaper, you never see any listed as undocumented. I was raise among Hispanics, they were hard workers and were not known for committing crimes. which makes me believe that these crimes are being committed by new immigrants from Mexico and mostly Central America.

Jim Forsythe

Jose' , below is about Arizona , and may be true of a lot of states. This is were Fingerprint scanning ,at the police car, would be a quick way to ID someone. My wife's phone has   fingerprint authentication  built in.  
So if someone -- say, a fourth-generation Latino citizen with an accent -- traveling through Arizona with a California or a Washington driver's license has the misfortune to be pulled over in a traffic stop and has the similar misfortune to arouse an officer's "reasonable suspicion" (say, he has a heavy accent or looks nervous), he could be hauled in and arrested under SB 1070, until someone back home can fax the birth  certificate Maybe a police officer will answerer.

Jose' Boix

Jim, I was just going on the column's title "to show your papers." While I have a Citizenship Certificate, I don't carry it around; only my driver's license (DL). I can understand all the related tools available to "check you out." That is why I support going to a Universal ID Card with all the biometrics "chipped in." While I worked in the UK we had to "report" annually to the local Constabulary; in fact they came religiously every year to our home as checked "our papers" which were or was an "ID Card" - and we had to have by law with us at all times.

Welcome to the discussion.

Keep it Clean. Please avoid obscene, vulgar, lewd, racist or sexually-oriented language.
PLEASE TURN OFF YOUR CAPS LOCK.
Don't Threaten. Threats of harming another person will not be tolerated.
Be Truthful. Don't knowingly lie about anyone or anything.
Be Nice. No racism, sexism or any sort of -ism that is degrading to another person.
Be Proactive. Use the 'Report' link on each comment to let us know of abusive posts.
Share with Us. We'd love to hear eyewitness accounts, the history behind an article.