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December 3, 2016

GLO keeps tight hold on public housing site study

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  • smfennew posted at 7:17 am on Sun, Aug 10, 2014.

    smfennew Posts: 355

    it's not really a bad sign that they weren't interested in what the locals had to say.. It wasn't good that they talked to Gulf Coast Interfaith (a group with very one-sided views and therefore no credibility in overall housing issues) but it sounds like they were just being polite.

    It will be very interesting to see their report - and how they weighted various factors. Particularly interesting will be to see if they included any county-wide analysis. Were their directions to confine themselves strictly to the island? unfortunately, I think so - but perhaps I'm wrong.

    Let's face it - this is a real estate issue and the GLO has legitimate grounds for keeping it secret until after the land is bought. When the city was trying to buy out bayfront property after Ike - the neighbors bought potential sites so that no public park could go in near them. I learned that if the city wants to put in a public bayfront park - it'll have to keep it very secret until after the land is bought if its anywhere near houses. I can only imagine the reaction to public housing sites.

  • IslandResident posted at 10:03 am on Sun, Aug 10, 2014.

    IslandResident Posts: 257

    This is all about "them" and "us".
    Them being the government.

    I was under the false impression, the government is "us"!

    I still do not understand what our State has against Galveston.

  • Jake Buckner posted at 11:15 am on Sun, Aug 10, 2014.

    Jake Buckner Posts: 2240

    Susan, I think I remember a provision stating that all of the scattered sites must be new construction; i.e. existing apartments, rental houses, or properties for sale can't simply be declared eligible to become public housing. Am I remembering correctly?

    Is it likely that he land to be purchased is currently privately owned, or City property, or both?

    I'm not inferring that you have any inside knowledge, just asking because you seem to know something about the process.

  • npappous posted at 12:47 pm on Sun, Aug 10, 2014.

    npappous Posts: 578

    Jake you are correct

  • smfennew posted at 2:17 pm on Sun, Aug 10, 2014.

    smfennew Posts: 355

    The requirement for new construction wouldn't necessarily eliminate the possibility of buying something older, tearing it down, and then building something new. (Would it?) The problem will be finding room on Galveston Island for that number of units (which is a LOT). I suspect that they'll actually construct a new "project" somewhere, or perhaps multiple new projects of 25-100 units, in order to reach 300 units. Galveston doesn't have enough empty lots to have 300 units of truly scattered sites (where there's only 1-4 units in a 3 block radius).

    If you're worried about your neighborhood - look around you. Are there many empty lots? Probably not. If there are no empty lots in your neighborhood, then I like to think that you really don't have to worry about the housing authority buying them- unless they start buying and tearing down houses in order to build new public housing.

  • Infamous Vodka posted at 5:09 pm on Sun, Aug 10, 2014.

    Infamous Vodka Posts: 94

    Perhaps they will build on the site of the Old Government/Coast Guard Housing that they are demolishing now on around 44th U I think? Does anyone know what is going to be done with that site?

  • Jake Buckner posted at 5:26 pm on Sun, Aug 10, 2014.

    Jake Buckner Posts: 2240

    Thanks, Susan and Norm.

    Like you said, not many empty lots in my neighborhood or really any of the so-called "better" neighborhoods, or for that matter the "poorer" ones either.

    That's one of the reasons this approach never made much sense to me. It's almost like a joke: "Hmmm, let's think of a densely built-out city where we can plop down a bunch of extra people. And let's pick one where it's hard to find a well-paying job, where many among the existing population are already poverty-stricken, and where once a decade the town is demolished by a natural disaster."

    What a peculiar location to put any sort of public housing.

  • Jake Buckner posted at 11:57 pm on Sun, Aug 10, 2014.

    Jake Buckner Posts: 2240

    I hope this land is far too expensive for public housing. Imagine, people getting to live for almost nothing on some of the Gulf Coast's most valuable property!

    I don't know what's planned for the site, but probably a hotel, restaurants, or upscale multi-family. Really, this is one of the best locations on the Island.

  • smfennew posted at 7:05 am on Mon, Aug 11, 2014.

    smfennew Posts: 355

    I have to point out that your generally wrong about no jobs. Galveston has more jobs than people. Thousands of people commute to the island every day for their job. Galveston has problems - but lack of jobs isn't one of them. I point this out only because some people are willing to sacrifice quality of life for jobs - when Galveston's problem is really the reverse of that. We have jobs, but the workers aren't wiling to live here.

    I know if you don't have a job, or are looking for a particular type of job - it seems like there are no jobs. But we're a small place and we don't have an infinite variety of jobs. In Galveston, if you're wiling to take any kind of job (and are employable) - you should be able to find one. It may be bagging groceries, or working as a waiter - but there are "now hiring" signs around town.

  • hoss posted at 8:16 am on Mon, Aug 11, 2014.

    hoss Posts: 93

    They were asking ten million last I heard.

  • Jake Buckner posted at 11:17 am on Mon, Aug 11, 2014.

    Jake Buckner Posts: 2240

    My point is that not just any job will give a person in public housing the ability to eventually leave it and purchase (or rent) unsubsidized housing, and build a life independent of the dole. Plenty of jobs, but the well-paying ones are taken.

    I know this in part because my daughter, a recent college graduate, can't find a job on the Island that pays well enough to support herself. As you say, she could find a min-wage job easily. If that's our intent for the folks in public housing, then aren't we guaranteeing them a lifetime in the projects?

  • Infamous Vodka posted at 8:19 am on Tue, Aug 12, 2014.

    Infamous Vodka Posts: 94

    Wish someone would build a really nice entertainment establishment on this property with a bowling center/skating rink/country dance hall. Would have parking area as well. Maybe I'm not awake yet. Thoughts anyone?

  • Infamous Vodka posted at 8:45 am on Tue, Aug 12, 2014.

    Infamous Vodka Posts: 94

    Oh! And if we could HAVE Gambling here in Texas....That would be a PRIME area for a CASINO!!!! Well yeah...I guess I'm really not awake now. Though my previous suggestion would create a few jobs as well. [smile]

  • confusedemmy posted at 8:47 am on Tue, Aug 12, 2014.

    confusedemmy Posts: 346

    You must still be asleep - and dreaming, Vodka... that's going to be a hotel complex, and a fancy one, at that.

    Since Landry's owns the cute little vintage brick motor court that is now an apt. complex behind it, TF might be eyeballing it?

  • Infamous Vodka posted at 9:57 am on Tue, Aug 12, 2014.

    Infamous Vodka Posts: 94

    Ahhhh confusedemmy....Yes, I was asleep & dreaming. I figured as much regarding TF eyeballing if not already in hand. I didn't know he already owns Crockett Courts behind there. (or at least that's what it use to be called many years ago).....Well alrighty then!....I'm wide awake now, was a nice dream though. [wink]