Woman concerned about GPD treatment

Janice D. Stanton is concerned about how she and her grandson Stanton P. Burke were treated by police officers during a confrontation May 8.

GALVESTON

A Galveston woman said she and her grandson were bullied after they asked a police officer who was picking up dry-cleaning to move a private vehicle blocking an alley.

Janice Stanton said she thought race played a role in the encounter and that she feared what might have happened to her grandson had she not been with him.

“This is a glimpse of the world of a young black man living in America today,” Stanton said. “I hesitate to think what might have happened had I not been there.”

Stanton and her grandson, Stanton Burke, 27, are African American. The two police officers were white, Stanton said.

Stanton and Burke, a Washington, D.C.-based attorney, were pulling out of her driveway in the alley between 36th and 37th streets about 1 p.m. May 8 to go to lunch, when they found a black Chevrolet Silverado pickup truck parked across the alley, blocking the exit, she said.

A man in a police officer’s uniform was in the passenger seat, so Burke honked and then approached the man about moving the vehicle, Stanton said.

The passenger told Burke the driver would be out in a minute, Stanton said.

The driver approached the vehicle several minutes later, and slowly got into the truck, which caused Burke to raise his hands in a gesture of exasperation, Stanton said.

The driver didn’t move the car out of the way, Stanton said.

The passenger in the police uniform got out of the truck with his hand on his gun and confronted Burke, Stanton said.

He told Burke to roll down the window and hand over his driver’s license, Stanton said.

“He didn’t see me until I started asking him, ‘Why? What’s the problem? Who are you’” Stanton said. “He said it was because we gestured.”

The officer told Burke he should have gone out the other end of the alley, Stanton said.

“I said, “You mean back up for the whole block,” Stanton said.

The officer had refused to identify himself and had walked away, Stanton said.

“My thought was, my grandson would have spoken up if I hadn’t been there,” Stanton said. “He doesn’t take injustice lightly. This could have escalated.”

The two took down the truck’s license plate number and Stanton called Councilman Craig Brown for advice, she said.

Brown said Wednesday he had spoken with Stanton and that he had asked police to investigate, but declined to comment further.

Galveston police officials Wednesday said they were aware of the incident and were investigating.

“We want to make sure all of our citizens are treated with respect and fairly,” Galveston police spokesman Capt. Joshua Schirard said. “That’s why, even without a formal complaint, we are looking into the incident. We want to assure that if one of our officers did treat someone unfairly, or without the respect deserved, we take corrective action to make sure it doesn’t happen in the future.”

“Right now, we are trying to ascertain if they were even our officers,” Schirard said. “We don’t have a lot of information. We want to make sure we verify who it was and go from there.”

Officials would release information only if the investigation results in disciplinary action, Schirard said.

Stanton said an officer from the department’s internal affairs division had called her Wednesday and asked for a description of the men in the pickup truck. The officer told her the initial investigation showed the driver was a Galveston police officer and that the passenger may have been a Santa Fe police officer, Stanton said.

“You hear about these things,” Stanton said. “Being black, you hear from friends about little things that have happened. But when it happens to you, you know it’s for real. And I’m so disappointed because we think of Galveston as our own little oasis. Everyone is usually so nice and kind.”

Matt deGrood: 409-683-5230; matt.degrood@galvnews.com

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Robert Braeking

Being black has nothing to do with police arrogance. I don't know if arrogance is a requirement for being a cop or if they are taught it at the academy. They have the attitude of hall monitors and crossing guards.

Carlos Ponce

Robert, you've only heard one side of the story. Was the officer arrogant? We don't know at this point. All we have is one side of the story. We need to hear the "Paul Harvey" side.

Robert Braeking

Carlos, the difference between you and me is that you automatically assume the police officer to be in the right. I don't. We already know from the story that they were in the wrong for parking illegally (blocking the alley). That pretty much kills their credibility.

Carlos Ponce

"you automatically assume the police officer to be in the right"
No, I just want to hear both sides of the story. And I sat on a Galveston County jury where we found a police officer guilty of criminal misbehavior.

Robert Braeking

Carlos, You won't get both sides truthfully. The police will lie, obstruct, obfuscate, and otherwise try to bury the story so nobody cares to follow it. I have seen it a thousand times. Case in point.....the Clinton legacy.

Carlos Ponce

As a classroom teacher I had to resolve problems between students and could spot the truth after I heard both sides.
Likewise, good parents have to resolve problems between siblings and maintain peace within their family.

Ron Shelby

This is a story to watch. Those officers definitely need to be disciplined for intentional intimidation. That was uncalled for. And parked illegally as well.

Carlos Ponce

Ron, were you an eyewitness tho the event? If not, how about holding your judgement until all the facts are in. If the officer did wrong this will be found out.But you've only heard one side of the story.

Toyya Braskey

My feelings about blaming everything on black discrimination if you are black bothers me. Last week there was a post on FB about a black women who said she didn't want her son to return a wrongly addressed delivered package delivered to her instead of to her neighbor, because they are black and feared entering a yard. My response was "These days anyone trespassing in a person's personal property is scary no matter what race, even those church witnesses, (I lock my iron gate to keep everyone out) let USPS handled their mistake." My feelings are that this incident probably would have played out no matter what race you are. The person you encountered probably would have reacted the same way. It also matters how you ask a person to move their car? The person blocking the alley shouldn't have been...but some people are just not paying attention. For instance, years ago, a lady rudely yelled at me in a restaurant for going in the exit door, Mocking out loud, "Some people just can't read." I turned to her with the attention of the full restaurant and said out loud, "Oh, I'm sorry. I just buried my brother and we came to eat after the grave lowering, I wasn't thinking about which door to use, but ... I bet you are rude all the time." The whole restaurant was silenced. So don't let this be about race. Most Galvestonians are respectful multi-cultural citizens.

Kimberley Jones Yancy

Toyya, its sad but true. As I canvassed the neighborhood I was concerned about that too. I have three sons, all middle class and African-American and the stories I can share with you would be exhausting. However, we cannot live in hate and believe that all white people hate us when its our experience that its not true. There is definitely an uptick of sorts that is very uncomfortable from being ignored in stores, harassment, jobs promotions denied, forced resignations, and not receiving good customer service. There are some people that are becoming very bold in their disdain for people of color. What was at one time thought or said in silence or in a circle of a few is now being manifested front and center and in our face. As a child born in 1971 with integration it is quite alarming and I worry about my sons ages 16, 18 and 23. In America, being African-American should not be a crime. I get it though, its not your experience and in most cases, people just don't know and really don't want to know. I pray for my sons daily that God will protect them. We are living in an America where their lives don't carry much value. Bottom line, its happening too often. All Americans should be coming together as one, as the world powers are beginning to line up against us. Our family is unapologetically American and we deserve to be treated with the same protections and respect that the Constitution provides.

Carlos Ponce

"The officer had refused to identify himself and had walked away, Stanton said."
The story indicates the officer was in uniform.
"The officer told her the initial investigation showed the driver was a Galveston police officer..."
Inquiry: Don't uniformed Galveston PD officers wear a name badge?
When talking with a uniformed officer I always read the name on the uniform so I can address the officer by name. And I never have problems with any uniformed officer.
Maybe Janice D. Stanton had trouble reading the name on the uniform. Or maybe she just saw a uniformed white man.

Emile Pope

Some comments are beneath contempt...

Stephen Murphy

If you honk your horn at someone these days, regardless of what pigment your skin is, chances are good that the situation could escalate into a lot more than what happened here. I think this lady and her grandson were lucky the alley-blockers were police officers. Politeness and patience is definitely not an attribute any of the parties involved in this story possess.

Emile Pope

Putting your hand on a weapon and demanding ID wasn't escalating??? And enough of this "everyone was to blame" garbage being used to justify wrongdoing on one side...

Karen Sawyer

this is a kind lady that does a lot for the community, i hope this is investigated to the extreme.

TR Galan

In spite of the ignorance already displayed on this forum by the most vociferous, this is a story to watch and I look forward to the assessment from Capt. Schirard and the News reporting it.

Raymond Lewis

Indeed it does. No excuse for any police officer to behave with such disrespect no matter what shade your pigmentation. Over the years, Ms. Stanton and her family have done much for the betterment of this community and GPD..

Debra Criss

I agree with Joe and Mr. Lewis.

George Croix

If it happened as told, the people in the truck should have moved it.
Being a jerk is a common condition these days.
So is automatically blaming nearly everything on race.

I can only speak for myself, but I am very tired of it all...jerks, and race as a factor in everything.
I have to wonder if my story, had this happened to me, would have made the paper....if not, then why....???

Emile Pope

But it didn't...wonder why?

George Croix

Because I wasn't IN that alley, Pope.
That's why.
If I had been, no doubt I could count on you to based on help me out because I was targeted for being white, rather than just be a jerk.
Thanks in advance.....

Emile Pope

You said "had this happened to me" not if you were in the alley. So I guess you are thinking that you would have been treated the same way. Unfortunately that's rarely the case...

George Croix

My error...fat fingers in small screen in small blind....
Here's what my fingers did not type:

Because I wasn't IN that alley, Pope. That's why. If I had been, no doubt I could count on you to help me out because I was targeted for being white, rather than just BY a jerk.
Thanks in advance.....

George Croix

You deflect, Pope.
The article said it was 'thought' by the woman that race played a role.
Maybe it did.
But how responsible is it of the GDN to print a one-sided article where the only proof is speculation, no matter how nice the accyser is. Shouldn't that be in the Editorial Section, not the general news?
The simple fact is I'd never make the GDN under the exact same circumstances.
If I felt I was singled out unjustly I'd be at the Police Station talking to the Chief first, not to a newspaper reporter.
Maybe that happened...the article doesn't say....
I'd say that actual race motivated injustices should be equally abhored and equally handled and as appropriate equally punished.....for all....
Would you say?

Emile Pope

"The simple fact is I'd never make the GDN under the exact same circumstances". Proof? And your stating that she talked to the GDN reporter first shows that you didn't completely read the article...

George Croix

I have the exact same level of proof about what might happen as the storyteller did about what happened.
Surely after backing an article based on speculation, on a 'thought', you'd accord me the same opportunity to think about and speculate on my hypothetical case outcome....would you not?
And, I did read the article. You? It says a Councilman was contacted, and that Councilman contacted Police. Or, perhaps the article just left out the results of a first contact with Police Administration...could be.....
What I said was that I'D (myself) talk to the Police first....that means myself....
The only reasons I can think of to contact a Councilman about it would be if the complaint had been blown off when confronting Police Admin. That's a good reason. Otherwise, it appears, although it certainly may not be, to be looking to up the level of influence first.
Maybe there'll be a followup/update.

Emile Pope

Despite your tortured explanation of "first", we both know that nothing like this would happen to you. I'm just willing to admit it. When the cop approached them with his hand on his weapon, he ceased being a jerk, ceased being arrogant, and instead became a threat to their lives. People seem to forget this...

George Croix

There's nothing tortured about it. In English, first means first. I can explain it to you, but I can't help you understand it. You simply blew it by accusing me of something you yourself didn't do, or failed to comprehend, read the article, and now you're deflecting again.
We both know no such thing. If I PO'd a cop, good or bad, enough to get his attention to approach my truck, is it then your assertion that he'd say "Oh, never mind. You're a white guy?
Good luck with that.
You do get points for consistency, though.

Shar Yates

What it boils down to is common courtesy, or lack thereof. Common courtesy can alleviate a lot of this anger.

Terry Moore

I have no doubt Chief Hale will take this seriously if it was GPD. Mrs. Stanton is a pillar of our community. I have experienced officers who think they can be obnoxious with no ramifications.. One was very rude to my 16 year old petite daughter who was stopped for speeding but officer could not tell us how fast she was going. If she was then ticket her but no need to be rude. It was her first stop and scared to death. An insider said they were most likely looking for her make and model car and stopped her with no grounds hence no ticket.

Emile Pope

Looking for a car like hers at a laundromat? Garbage. Sickening how people are trying to excuse actions by the cop that wouldn't be tolerated if it were anyone else. He approached them with his hand on his weapon simply because they wanted him to move a vehicle and people want to say forget about it. Apparently where you stand is determined by where you sit...

Toyya Braskey

I am white and I've only had one experience in Texas City where one officer was rude for no reason to me. I left on a known backroad from my job which was the same back road all other employees left from. He pulled me over. It was nighttime. He was screaming at me. I've never had a ticket in my life. He tried telling me the feeder road was a one way. I told him it was a two way and I drive it daily. He kept asking what I was doing on the back road? I handed him my employee handbook to show him I worked at the place down that road. He still abused me with words. Eventually having to let me go. It's not about race. All the cop had to do is stop me, ask me in a normal rational voice what I was doing, run my license and insurance and let me go, but some do have arrogance issues and it's a personal issue. Most law enforcement are kind, respectful. I work currently with several Galveston county sheriffs that are outstanding. My boss is a police officer. A respectful approach is key to all situations.

George Croix

I would hope that any person, if treated as the article stated, would get the same level of attention and justice.
What one has or has not done for a community is irrelevant in the case cited....

Toyya Braskey

Amen

Kelly Naschke

The picking sides and division among those that have thus far replied to this article is disgusting. I hear a lot speculation from people that don't have firsthand knowledge of the encounter. You all know what ASSumptions make of you, don't you?

George Croix

Speculate vs assume
"The difference between speculate and assume is that speculate is to think, meditate or reflect on a subject; to consider, to deliberate or cogitate, while assume is to authenticate by means of belief; to surmise; to suppose to be true, especially without proof."

Toyya Braskey

agree.

Toyya Braskey

I'm going to write that down. I know a English Professor that would love this.

Toyya Braskey

Ms. Stanton, the only way we can have real understanding is to be honest and talk about this no matter how painful truthfulness is None of us witnessed this and are just reading a story. I believe this officer might have illegally parked & blocked the alley, and that was poor judgement and unthoughtful. Humans have bad days and sometimes exercise poor judgement. Request surveillance from store. I don't think this is racial. Parking disagreements happen daily between persons of all races. . Mean people suck. I don't mean to go off subject on a tangent, but it's the only way I can express my discomfort about the race card issue. This trend of blacks now claiming everything is racist for every incident that happens is getting out of hand and is causing a greater division of the people because now people are getting disgusted with this cry baby, "poor me I'm black and discriminated against" claims. I do not know of any other race that claims racial discrimination as much as blacks. In reality they have just as many rights and opportunities as well as altercations as anyone else. I've started saying to my black friends faces that I am sick & tired of this, discrimination & black entitlement bull crap. I have black co-workers that stroll in 10-20 late each day. I had a black supervisor that slept on the job everyday. At one of my jobs the employee ratio is 5 blacks: 1 Caucasian. I did complain about their tardiness. I did report my supervisor sleeping. I have become more & more aware as a white person, I am now the minority. I am not a white racist. In my 20's (4) black men knocked on my door, I didn't answer, they broke in my home with me in there. It was terrifying. Luckily my black neighbor saw this from across the street and called 911. Anyone should be scared if anyone, African American (black) or even a white unknown person approaches your property & knocks on the door, this is precaution, not prejudice, because this is a known break in technique. Knock, no one answers, break in. I recently moved back to Galveston 6 months ago. I'll never forget my landlord handing me the key and saying, "Everyone in the neighborhood is white." I normally lock my surround property iron gate each and every minute of the day. I was having furniture delivered so I temporarily unlocked it for about 30 minutes. I had opened the front door to look for them, stepped into a back room for a minute. An innocent neighbor took that as an invitation to just walk into my house to ask me something. I own a 9MM. I told the neighbor, "You almost just got shot, do not ever walk in my house unannounced."
In my above post, I said I didn't think the FB post regarding a woman who posted she wouldn't allow her son take a wrongly addressed package that was mistakenly delivered to her, to her neighbors, because they are black and she feared violent reactions. I replied to that post, this was not a racist issue, it was a common sense issue. Let USPS handle that, because anyone trespassing into anyone's yard, no matter what race is scary. I would be scared to let Jesus witnesses in my house. You just don't know anyone who's a stranger these days. Take Twenty One Pilots, song "Heathens" lyrics , as advice real advice. In the past I've had a black attorney, Anthony Griffin of Galveston. Black physicians. I good relationships with black friends & co-workers, and mixed ethnic groups on FB. Yet, everyday I read post targeting "stupid white people." We don't hear complaints of discrimination from Latinos, Muslims, or the Jewish community. Just blacks... It concerned me that you said, “My thought was, my grandson would have spoken up if I hadn’t been there,” Stanton said. “He doesn’t take injustice lightly. This could have escalated.” So you are admitting your Grandson might also need to think about how he approaches situations, because you are correct, his could have escalated to someone's death. I am not saying let people walk over you, just think, pause before you react. You & your grandson have the right to ask someone to move out of the way, but if you approach anyone aggressively or gesture impatiently I would imagine this officer would put his hand on his gun as he approached you. It's like if someone rudely honks behind me in Walmart as I'm loading my groceries, I guarantee I'm going purposely be slower, but if you approach me nicely I might apologize and hurry.
Sometimes the media is guilty of pushing these stories, adding fire to the flame. Together we stand, divided we fall.

Emile Pope

Apologist garbage. A cop threatened civilians simply because they wanted him to move a truck out of the way. And long winded blathering won't change or excuse that. Your trying to excuse the cop's actions in this situation is sickening.

Toyya Braskey

Sorry for type-o's typing on little phone buttons.

Toyya Braskey

I originally typed this on my phone and there's too many type-o's so I retyped this on my computer and posted it below with corrections.

Carlos Ponce

If you slept well last night safe and secure in your residence:
First thank God,
then thank the local police and sheriff's department,
thank all elected officials,
thank the armed forces of the United States,
thank their commander in chief, President Donald J. Trump,
thank our forefathers who gave us this the Constitution, laws of the United States.
Thanksgiving should be more than one day in November!

Carlos Ponce

And be sure to thank the health providers, fire department personnel, anyone who makes this a better, safer world!

Emile Pope

You'd be better off thanking God that most policemen aren't like the one that confronted Mrs. Stanton and her grandson...

Carlos Ponce

Thank you for your comment, Emile. As for me I will wait until I hear from both sides of the story. That's the sensible, responsible approach. No formal complaint was filed. There's probably a reason why not.

Emile Pope

The "decision" you make was determined long ago...

Carlos Ponce

No I like to look at all sides - I taught Geometry.

Robert Braeking

Carlos, I am sorry for you if you depend on the police to protect you. That is not their job. They only investigate crimes and refer their findings to the DA for prosecution. They cannot 'prevent' crime. That type of action is unconstitutional. Police, sherrif's deputies, elected officials, the armed forces, and the President do not protect me when I sleep. The realization among the criminal community that they will most likely not survive a crime against my home or person is what protects me. Thanks to the Founding Founders and their wisdom in including the 2nd amendment int the Constitution.

Carlos Ponce

Au contraire, mon ami. Police can prevent some crimes. They pull over the inebriated driver, a speeding driver, a reckless driver before an accident happens. The mere presence of a police cruiser makes most drivers obey the speed limit and traffic laws. Many real world examples where the presence of an officer makes people behave.

Robert Braeking

Au Contraire back at you, Carlos. Speeding, Drunk Driving, etc., are crimes. The arrest is made after the fact. Law abiding citizens abide by the law because it is the right thing to do. Law breakers do what they can to avoid getting caught. There are not enough police or police presence to prevent crime. You can only keep the cat off the kitchen table when you are in the room. I was once an instructor in a correctional boot camp. The scoutmaster that ran the pool at the Boy Scout camp where we taught drownproofing commented that the only difference between his boys and mine was that mine got caught.

Carlos Ponce

Like I posted, a police presence is a crime deterrent.

George Croix

All we need is for the reporter to follow up, ask the folks involved if they tried to get Police Admin. involved before what looks like, but certainly may not be, attempting to pull rank or exert influence via a Councilman third party, and also get the other side of this story, and the speculation will go away.
The assuming will, unfortunately, if the past is any in dicator, no doubt remain.

Stephen Murphy

Let's suppose, since we haven't heard the other side of the story, that Mrs. Stanton might have embilished the facts of this incident. I'm sure many of us are guilty of adding extra details or exaggerating a story we have told, especially if doing so paints us in a more favorable light. What if the officer viewed Burke's "gesture of exasperation" (whatever that means) as a "threatening gesture", would that excuse the officer's actions? During many traffic stops, police officers routinely place their hand on the holstered firearm "just in case", so it's not like it doesn't ever happen. Just sayin'...

Emile Pope

Let's suppose??? So you are going to automatically think that because you haven't heard the other side that Mrs. Stanton was making things up? Exactly what do you base this on? Trying to paint Mrs. Stanton as being untruthful with absolutely nothing to base it on in order to defend the cop is laughable and tragic at the same time...

Carlos Ponce

Emile, there is a training session called "witness" in which a staged incident occurs in front of a group of people. The "perps and "victims" are removed from the scene and the members of the group, the "witnesses", are asked to write down what they observed. The "reports" are all different. Each are writing from a different perspective. Sometimes an emotional one, sometimes from background, sometimes from past experience etc. Mrs. Stanton did not lie. She is just reporting things from her perspective. Emile is reporting things from a third party perspective. I suggest you view the movie or play "12 Angry Men" about jurors. Each juror responding to the evidence in a trial from a third party perspective. Very enlightening.
If you think police are picking on you while driving I suggest you get one of those on board car cameras. They're not expensive but will record the events from a non-emotional perspective. I saw some for sale at Wal-Mart, the "As seen on TV " aisle.

Emile Pope

Before I consider suggestions, I think about the person making them. Fortunately not for long...

Carlos Ponce

All I can do is offer useful help. If you refuse it, that's your right. Have a nice day.

Toyya Braskey

Ms. Stanton, the only way we can have real understanding is to be honest and talk about this no matter how painful truthfulness is. None of us witnessed this and are just reading a story. I believe this officer might have illegally parked & blocked the alley, and that was poor judgement and unthoughtful. Humans have bad days and sometimes exercise poor judgement. Request surveillance from store. I don't think this is racial. Parking disagreements happen daily between persons of all races. . Mean people suck.
I don't mean to go off subject on tangent(s), but it's the only way I can express my discomfort about the race card issue. This trend of blacks now claiming everything is racist for every incident that happens is getting out of hand and is causing a greater division of the people because now people are getting disgusted with this cry baby, "poor me, I'm black and discriminated against" claims. I do not know of any other race that claims racial discrimination as much as blacks. In reality they have just as many rights and opportunities, as well as altercations as anyone else. I've started saying to my black friends faces that I am sick & tired of this, discrimination & black entitlement bull crap. I have black co-workers that stroll in 10-20 late each day. I had a black supervisor that slept on the job everyday. At one of my jobs the employee ratio is 5 blacks: 1 Caucasian. I did complain about their tardiness. I did report my supervisor sleeping. I have become more & more aware as a white person, I am now the minority. I am not a white racist. In my 20's (4) black men knocked on my door, I didn't answer, they broke in my home with me in there. It was terrifying. Luckily my black neighbor saw this from across the street and called 911. Anyone should be scared if anyone, African American (black) or even a white unknown person approaches your property & knocks on the door, this is precaution, not prejudice, because this is a known break in technique. Knock, no one answers, break in. I recently moved back to Galveston 6 months ago. I'll never forget my landlord handing me the key and saying, "Everyone in the neighborhood is white." (I thought it was a sad statement.) I normally lock my surround property iron gate each and every minute of the day. I was having furniture delivered so I temporarily unlocked it for about 30 minutes. I had opened the front door to look for them, stepped into a back room for a minute. An innocent neighbor took that as an invitation to just walk into my house to ask me something. I own a 9MM. I told the neighbor, "You almost just got shot, do not ever walk in my house unannounced."

In my above post, I said I didn't think a recent FB post regarding a woman who posted she wouldn't allow her son to take a wrongly addressed package that was mistakenly delivered to her, to her neighbors, because they are black, and she feared violent reactions. I replied to that post, that it was not a racist issue, it was a common sense issue. To let USPS handle that, because anyone trespassing into anyone's yard, no matter what race is scary. I would be scared to let Jesus witnesses in my house. You just don't know anyone who's a stranger these days. Take Twenty One Pilots, song "Heathens" lyrics , as advice.  (Real advice.) In the past I've had a black attorney, Anthony Griffin of Galveston. Black physicians. I have good relationships with black friends & co-workers, and mixed ethnic groups on FB. Yet, everyday I read post targeting "stupid white people." (This is making me ambivalent.) We don't hear near as many complaints of discrimination from Latinos, Muslims, or the Jewish community, as we do from blacks. Mostly blacks...

It concerned me that you said, “My thought was, my grandson would have spoken up if I hadn’t been there,” Stanton said. “He doesn’t take injustice lightly. This could have escalated.” So you are admitting your Grandson might also need to think about how he approaches situations, because you are correct, this could have escalated to someone's death. I am not saying let people walk over you, just think, pause before you react. You & your grandson have the right to ask someone to move out of the way, but if you approach anyone aggressively, or gesture impatiently, I would imagine this officer would put his hand on his gun as he approached you.  Most officers put their hand on their guns.  It's like if someone rudely honks behind me in Walmart as I'm loading my groceries, I guarantee I'm going to purposely stall and be slower to piss them off, but if you approach me nicely I might apologize and hurry.

Sometimes the media is guilty of pushing these stories, adding fire to the flame. Together we stand, divided we fall.

Emile Pope

Automatically taking the cop's side with no evidence and trying to blame Mrs. Stanton and her grandson shows your bias. Also, your saying that the grandson committed acts that justified the cop's actions with absolutely no evidence to support it makes you part of the problem. And useless platitudes do nothing to solve anything...

Dedrick Johnson

Well, it's been 4 days since this story broke. Everyone wants to "hear the other side" before making a judgement. Still nothing from the other side. I can only assume it's a.) because they have nothing different to add... b.) they are still trying to get their story straight... c) they've been silenced by their department or attorney. While hearing both sides is a good idea, there is absolutely nothing previously reported that seems outlandishly embellished or untrue. This is simply a case of an arrogant cop trying to flex his muscle through intimidation. Whether the reason was because they were black or not is irrelevant. But the fact is... the gentleman WAS black. And that's his and MY reality 24/7/365.

So was he supposed to drive almost an entire block in reverse because another citizen parked his vehicle illegally? Nope, not at all. This definitely could have escalated unnecessarily and I'm glad it did not. The officer could have easily just MOVED. Period.

Carlos Ponce

Any maybe the investigation is over but hasn't been reported in what you consider a "timely" manner. One must consider all the possibilities. You and I have just presented but a few possibilities. In this day of "instant" news it is best to get it right - not fast. Issuing a retraction takes up space.

Carlos Ponce

Dedrick, do an internet search of her address between 36th and 37th streets. To "drive almost an entire block" must be hyperbole since she lives in the middle of the 3600 block. Just a fact, Dedrick, just a fact.

Emile Pope

Doesn't matter if it were a foot. The cops were blocking the path. If the situation was reversed the grandson would have been getting a ticket or worse...

Carlos Ponce

How much time was involved? seconds, minutes, hours? Doubtful if a ticket would be issued with an occupant in the vehicle. Sounds like someone was in a hurry.....

George Croix

"A South Carolina NAACP chapter president who says he was racially profiled during a traffic stop was accused of lying after police released video footage of the encounter, according to reports.
"Tonight, I was racially profiled by Timmonsville Officer CAUSE I WAS DRIVING A MERCEDES BENZ AND GOING HOME IN A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD," Timmonsville NAACP President Rev. Jerrod Moultrie said in an April 13 Facebook post, according to Fox 5 Atlanta."
"He made a comment that the officer accused him of having drugs in the car,” Timmonsville Police Chief Billy Brown said, according to the station. “He said that his wife and grandchild was in the car. He asked them not to move because the officer looked as if he might shoot them or something. He also made mention that the officer continued to ask him about his neighborhood. Why was he in that neighborhood? And threaten[ed] to put him in jail in reference to something dealing with the registration to the vehicle."
Brown told the station that after reviewing the bodycam video of the stop, he determined there was nothing to Moultrie’s claims.
"When I saw the video, I was shocked that someone who is supposed to be a community leader, a pastor, and head of the NAACP would just come out and tell a blatant lie,” the police chief said. “It bothered me. It really bothered me, thinking about the racial unrest it could've cost in the community and it's just troubling to me that someone who held a position like that would come out and just tell a lie.”
Based on the body camera footage, the officer who stopped Moultrie neither asked if he had drugs in the car nor why he was driving in the area,” the Raleigh News & Observer reported.
The paper reported that the officer stopped Moultrie for making a turn without signaling.
(Side Note Mine: My wife got a ticket for failing to signal a turn from a TCPD Officer near COM about 2 months ago. Nephew stopped by same Officer before that ......my wife is white, and my nephew is black, and the Officer was black...the issue was the driving, not the race.....)
According to the paper, Moultrie’s Facebook post had been deleted.
Fox 5 quoted a local community activist as saying that he was so upset by Moultrie’s claims that he went to the police department to take a look at the video.
Timothy Waters of Florence said the video just made him more upset, the station reported.
"Once I got a copy of that bodycam, it's as if he made the whole story up. And I felt like he set us back 100 years because think about all of the racial profiling cases [that] are true," Waters said.
The station quoted Moultrie as declining further comment.

Not exactly an isolated incident.
One may recall how the Cambridge Police 'acted stupidly'. Or the cop was just picking on the 'Gentle Giant'.
This article proves, in this local case, absolutely nothing.
But it does illustrate the importance of getting the facts, rather than just the story......

Emile Pope

Unless you can show that this is the norm, using one isolated incident does not prove anything except the lengths some people are willing to go to defend their biases...

George Croix

Right back at ya, Pope....

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