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September 28, 2016

Suspect dead after standoff at Texas City apartment complex

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  • terrymoore posted at 8:47 pm on Wed, Jan 15, 2014.

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    I was shocked to see the picture of the SWAT Team carrying out the body nude. Always thought they would put it on a stretcher or in a body bag.

  • sverige1 posted at 9:10 pm on Wed, Jan 15, 2014.

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    Quite interesting...you're right, terrymoore.

    I often don't flip through these GDN pictures (guess I'm too impatient), but your post made me do so. That's pretty graphic.

    I wonder if there were extenuating circumstances inside the apt that made it imperative that the officers quickly carry his body outside without a stretcher, body bag, or sheet.

  • TJ Aulds posted at 9:15 pm on Wed, Jan 15, 2014.

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    He was alive at the time they brought him out to EMS to retrieve him. He died outside.

  • terrymoore posted at 11:08 pm on Wed, Jan 15, 2014.

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    Thanks TJ for clarifying. I re-read it and see that I assumed he was dead when they found him.

  • sverige1 posted at 4:26 pm on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

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    My lands, then that must mean that when that photo was taken of them carrying the man, he had very likely died barely moments earlier. Or, officially died as he was in their arms.

  • cathyheikkila posted at 7:27 pm on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

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    Article states they are carrying the BODY of a murder SUSPECT. So, it's a BODY. I am shocked that a body gets dragged out by it's arms. And, on the front page of the paper. Really. It was a suspect. Maybe he's guilty maybe not. But don't drag out a body by it's arms, but worse thing is don't print the picture on front page of newspapers. Editor states in these comments that he died later, but really, do they drag living people needing medical attention out by the arms?

  • TJ Aulds posted at 10:11 pm on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

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    Actually, it is common to hogtie suspected violent offenders when taking them into custody. He had ties on his wrists for example. He was then taken to paramedics. In this situation the procedure was to secure the suspect and bring him to a controlled area for any medical treatment.

  • sverige1 posted at 7:24 am on Fri, Jan 17, 2014.

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    From the TV scenes, it appears that's what they did to the female suspect - hogtie her. The footage appeared to have her tied as she was being escorted. I didn't notice if she was tied to her wrists in front of her. I suppose so, but she was alive and moving on her own.

    Either way, the footage of the alleged female credit card abuser didn't seem nearly as "odd". Actually, it looked routine - she was even resisting, and that's commonplace. By my surmisation, the only reason it appeared graphic in the suspect man's case was that he died, and obviously with that, he couldn't walk on his own. Therefore, it appeared as though he was "dragged".

    So, we ask...why drag him?? All I can say is that law enforcement has a hazardous and dangerous job when they try to transport suspects. They had to do what they had to do in this case. I would think that if a violent, yet wiley, suspect seemingly tries to "hang" himself inside, then law enforcement might still be leery when they first see his apparent listless body. They have to make quick decisions. If they didn't hogtie him, then there could be a small chance he is playing a trick - pretending to be "out cold" and/or dead. Then, he could "revive" and be violent.

    What an awful story, in any event. To take down another guy while he's car selling and then to use his credit cards. How much more lower on the humanity scale can you get?

  • maria007 posted at 8:09 am on Fri, Jan 17, 2014.

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    I only have two question for the SWAT & POLICE DEPT. do you not have body bag's why carry the man like a dead animal? I see photos like this in other countries, and I thought we were better than them. guess not.

  • sverige1 posted at 8:29 am on Fri, Jan 17, 2014.

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    Well, with the things this violent suspect allegedly did, I doubt if suspect would be worried about being dragged in the nude. As Aulds said, he died outside. I believe when law enforcement apprehend criminals who are alive in a building, they have to take the suspect "as is". That's why on COPs and other shows we see a lot of suspects getting arrested in their shorts (no shirt). The cops are probably even leery to ask them to put on shoes or tanktop, as within the tanktop/shoe some kind of contraband could be on/in them.

    Would be keen to have a law enforcement person add to this conversation.

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