WASHINGTON

Donald Trump’s inaugural address held familiar echoes of the campaign speeches that led to his presidential win: downbeat about the state of the nation, to the point of hyperbole. A look at some of his assertions Friday:

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TRUMP: “The jobs left, and the factories closed ... the wealth, strength and confidence of our country has disappeared over the horizon.”

THE FACTS: The U.S. economy is a lot healthier than the wreck Trump describes. Jobs have increased for a record 75 straight months. The U.S. unemployment rate was 4.7 percent in December, close to a nine-year low and to what economists consider full employment.

From July through September, the economy expanded at a 3.5 percent annual pace — the fastest in two years. The Federal Reserve is so confident in the resiliency of the economy that it raised interest rates last month for only the second time in a decade. While wage growth has been sluggish since the Great Recession ended in mid-2009, declining unemployment and steady job growth are starting to force businesses to offer higher pay to find and attract new workers.

And in 2015, the income for a typical household jumped 5.2 percent to an inflation-adjusted $56,516, the largest annual growth in nearly five decades, according to the Census Bureau. Average hourly pay rose last year at the fastest pace in more than seven years.

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TRUMP: “We’ve defended other nation’s borders while refusing to defend our own.”

THE FACTS: Hardly. Since 2001, the U.S. has more than doubled the ranks of the Border Patrol, which now has nearly 20,000 agents. The vast majority of those are stationed along the Mexican border, where about 408,000 people were apprehended during the budget year that ended in September.

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TRUMP: The U.S. has “subsidized the armies of other countries while allowing for the very sad depletion of our military.”

THE FACTS: The U.S. military may have shortcomings, but it remains the world’s most advanced, expensive and far-flung fighting force. American military spending is nearly three times that of second-place China, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.

The Pentagon says it does have additional needs, including more ships, a replenished air fleet and bigger training budgets to prepare for large-scale combat.

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TRUMP: “We will reinforce old alliances and form new ones, and unite the civilized world against radical Islamic terrorism, which we will eradicate completely from the face of the Earth.”

THE FACTS: Quelling radical Islamic terrorism worldwide is a heavy lift in which the U.S. has been engaged for years, and Trump has offered no plan for how he will deliver on this promise.

A U.S.-led coalition began battling Islamic extremism even before 9/11. In Afghanistan alone, the coalition has fought for more than 15 years to prevent al-Qaida and other radical groups from regaining a safe harbor there. Getting the help of NATO allies might prove diplomatically challenging since Trump has called NATO “obsolete” and says European members aren’t paying their fair share.

The threat is only growing. The Islamic State has a global reach, and attacks linked to radical extremism have occurred in the United States, France, Belgium, Turkey and countries throughout northern Africa

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Doyle Beard

Typical liberal spin. If thes paper doenst think millions of jobs have been lost tjey are stupid.

Carlos Ponce

" THE FACTS: The U.S. economy is a lot healthier than the wreck Trump describes. Jobs have increased for a record 75 straight months. The U.S. unemployment rate was 4.7 percent in December, close to a nine-year low and to what economists consider full employment."
The Liberal spin meisters must be joking. The jobs created are low hourly, low wage jobs. Is this "healthy"? Only if you're a loon.
The U6 unemployment number is 9.2%
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS13327709

Mike Zeller

Carlos Ponce says " The U6 unemployment number is 9.2% " that is correct. What he left out was, when President Obama came into office that number was 14.2%, an unemployment drop of 5%. As Paul Harvey use to say "Now you know the rest of the story".

Carlos Ponce

Yes but if you look at the AVERAGE of the U6 unemployment numbers through all 8 years of Bush's administration you will note it was FAR BELOW that of Obama's administration. The downturn in employment came in 2007 and 2008 due to the Housing bubble, an event Bush tried to avert but was stymied by Barney Frank who assured Congress that all was fine. In his State of the Union Message, GW Bush asked Congress to fix it and they did not.
Addendum on the Obama unemployment dropping: The "jobs" created were the division of jobs available into part time jobs to avoid having to provide insurance as Obamacare required for full time workers.

Mr. Tamug93

Carlos, thank you for being a voice of reason among the idiots on this blog.

George Croix

A job.......min wage; part time; 29.5 hrs/wk; no benefits
A job.......good pay; good bennies

Yep...no difference at all there......

Also, what good is putting more Border Patrolmen on the border then ordering them to 'turn around' the illegal aliens they catch...aside from phonying up the numbers.....
Counting each 'turnaround' as a 'deportation' is also cute.......

[beam][beam][beam][beam][beam]

Carlos Ponce

"THE FACTS: Hardly. Since 2001, the U.S. has more than doubled the ranks of the Border Patrol, which now has nearly 20,000 agents. The vast majority of those are stationed along the Mexican border, where about 408,000 people were apprehended during the budget year that ended in September."
It's not the number of Border Patrol agents in question, it's Obama's border policy which hampers their efforts. Just ask any Border Patrol agent. There's been an increase of illegal border crossings. Along with those seeking jobs are criminals, drug smugglers, Muslim extremists.

Carlos Ponce

"American military spending is nearly three times that of second-place China, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute."
Why spend money on research when you can "hack" plans for weapons, all done during Obama's tenure. Did Obama talk about Chinese hacking F-35 plans? NOOOOOO! He's more concerned about Russians hacking the DNC which had NO effect on the election outcome.
See "Chinese hackers stole F-35 fighter jet blueprints in Pentagon hack, Edward Snowden documents claim "
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/snowden-chinese-hackers-stole-f-35-fighter-jet-blueprints-article-1.2084888

Carlos Ponce

"THE FACTS: Quelling radical Islamic terrorism worldwide is a heavy lift in which the U.S. has been engaged for years, and Trump has offered no plan for how he will deliver on this promise."
This AP reporter must be really STUPID if he thinks military plans should be revealed to the world including the enemy. There IS a plan. Unlike Obama who revealed to the enemy our "plans", Trump will keep information on a secure level. "Loose lips sink ships" is not just for WWII.

Rudy Steury

I really am sick of the commentary from these few people every day. A reasonable and balanced investigation into the "facts" is certainly fair commentary. However, this mindless counter point is just ridiculous. Trump's speech was an extreme portrayal of the problems in this country at the expense of recognizing some of the positive developments that have occurred in the last few years. The AP story did that at the expense of an in-depth discussion of each issue. Ok, guys not all the jobs were full time and at the highest wage rate in history. We all know that the quality of some of the jobs that were added on this past growth trend line were as good as we would like them to be. Ok, guys some of the border control practices need improvement but it is true that we are trying to add to the force that protects us on the border not dimish it. Get a life before you take pen in hand every day.

Carlos Ponce

Who checks the Fact Checkers, Rudy?
A REAL Fact Check would show that this one is one sided, skewed to the LEFT.
Trump's speech was good and uplifting.
Mindless Counterpoint? We can back our "counterpoints" with valid data. It is far from "mindless".
Isn't providing a "counterpoint" the basis of debate?
Do you simply see the Title "AP Fact Check" and accept it as Gospel truth? Sad.[sad]

Carlos Ponce

"When those with an ideological agenda refuse to investigate and objectively evaluate the evidence for and against their beliefs we are in a debate about Alice in Wonderland. We are no longer talking about policy and programs for the real world we live in." posted by Rudy Steury
Rudy, are you refusing "to investigate and objectively evaluate the evidence for and against" your beliefs? By calling annotated discourse as "mindless counterpoint" it looks like you are. Say "hello" to Alice for me.[beam]

George Croix

A doctor would recommend that if something makes you sick, then stop doing the something.....[rolleyes]

Don Schlessinger

WE DID!

Jarvis Buckley

You hear that sound GCDN?
That's the sound of your newspaper going down the drain if you keep printing these
garbage liberal articles.
Your to good of a publication
for this. Please stop it.✌️

George Croix

No, no....we NEED input from all sides.....

You see, tomorrow the GDN will post a commemorative article comparing the ex-POTUS claims to this article.

'if you like your doctor/plan you can keep them.'
'It was the video.'
'Not a smidgen of IRS corruption.'
'I found out about it on the news.'
And a host of other outright lies that make any talk of exaggeration the stuff of.....stuff.......and 'legacies'.......

Tim Thompson

Hee hee, thank you GDN (whoever is writing these articles, incl. the ones on Climate Change), I'm going to enjoy reading the articles and the inevitable angry ants nest they stir up Keep 'em coming! [beam]

George Croix

ps:
Example of how some of this fact check stuff works, on both sides, too:

For 7 years Joe has I have been working, when not on unemployment and food stamps, at minimum wage or reduced hours jobs while looking for better work. His income has been stagnant, when not declining, that whole time.
Whooopeee, Joe gets a job with a $1 an hour increase over what he's had for years, and thus his income has increased at the fastest rate as seen in 7 years.....

Or, we may be having to scrounge parts from aircraft boneyards to keep others in the air, but we're still the best in the world.

Or, the economy for ONE quarter in 8 years expanded at 3.5% annual pace so it's the fastest rate in years....leaving out that the actual expansion for the entire 8 years is closer to 1%...the worst in several decades....

It's important to fact check the fact checkers by thinking and reasoning rather than absorbing and swallowing....
imho....

Rudy Steury

"Trump's speech was good and uplifting." by Carlos. Now that is "great commentary" and helpful to the 75% of the voters who are not part of the Trump movement. I actually think the real Trump movement is smaller than 25% but that seems to be the number students of the election have settled on. The interesting thing about the article all you guys are dissing was just how Trump's perspective of catastrophic national failure is not only shared by a minority but his vision for solving the problems we all see is probably unacceptable to a huge majority. The article was just using the patently false metrics he cites to point out that the speech was pretty much directed at very few "true believers".

George Croix

Trying to unify us all?

Is that what the democrats have been doing since Nov. 8???

How 'bout the rioters...they doing some of that unifying??

"We won"...is that 'unifying...?

Maybe Trump can take a clue from how the left manages 'unifying'....


C'mon......too many people want DIVERSITY, not unity,,,it's THEIR job to get off their bandwagon and join in unity.......you can't make people stop being self-centered and looking out for number 1 while throwing number 2....they gotta want to do it......

Personally, it aggravates the hell out of me that a guy like trump could ever have gotten close to the Oval Office, but at the same time consider it a blessing that one of the lifetime entrenched trough feeders did not.....

Time will tell whether it's the frying pan, or the fire.......

I am happy anyone thinks a little progress was made in the last 8 years. We all have our own priorities.
Just imagine how much more might have been made if instead of just pretending to advocate for unity, some of that unity had actually been encouraged and practiced, with deeds matching soaring words as empty as old egg shells......
If nothing else, we might start unifying behind attacking criminals, rather than Police, and unifying behind the value of a hand up over a hand out.....
It would be a nice start back to national unity....

imho, as always

btw: Trump got elected because our disastrous national condition was not questionable to middle America.....and one may recall that the last two inaugural messages were great soaring speeches of national unity that both resulted in the worst division since the 60's...imho......
Time for a change....hopefully a better one.....

George Croix

It's not anger, Mr. Thompson, it's lack of gullibility.

I recommend it to all...

Hee hee..........[beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam]

Tim Thompson

No, I mean, I have been reading you guys' anti-Obama and anti-Liberal blog comments for the past 8yrs but I love that the GDN is finally deciding to get political and get in there and mix it up, the DAY after the Inauguration! Well, Bam-Bam's gone, and your guy's in Da House, so it's going to be the Other Side's time to kvetch for a while, might as well get used to it! Just saying it's going to be fun and interesting. Democracy is alive and well in the good ole' United States!

Carlos Ponce

Once given his cabinet and appointments even you will think he's doing a good job.
"All we are saying is give Trump a chance." [beam]

Jarvis Buckley

I expect any day, for one of these articulate Harvard educated liberals to start belittling little Barron like
Chris Mathews did on MSNBC.
Rudy we Deplorable's do know how to add. 75 percent . You
need to do a little self fact checking. If it wouldn't be so sad it would be hilarious.

Jim Forsythe

The following kind of stuff date  back to Harry Truman time. These are just a few examples, so do not expect it to stop.
McCain: "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because her father is Janet Reno."
Rush Limbaugh took a crack at Chelsea, mocking her appearance. Limbaugh compared her to a dog.
He then recounted how he apologized once to Amy Carter for calling her "the most unattractive presidential daughter in the history of the country."
As you may have heard, Republican congressional aide Elizabeth Lauten was recently forced to resign amid outrage over a Facebook post in which she accused President Obama’s teen daughters of dressing like bar floozies and urged them to “show a little class
Jenna and Barbara, daughters of George W. Bush, were already young adults -- but not of legal drinking age -- when their names were splashed in headlines during the spring of 2001 after getting caught with liquor.
Largely ignored by the media up to that point, the 19-year-olds were branded "party girls" by the tabloids.
It's an indication of how ugly and undercutting the politics are that even kids are fair game to some people who are punching way below their weight. It's ugly, ugly stuff."

Jim Forsythe

The following kind of stuff date  back to Harry Truman time. These are just a few examples, so do not expect it to stop.
McCain: "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because her father is Janet Reno."
Rush Limbaugh took a crack at Chelsea, mocking her appearance. Limbaugh compared her to a dog.
He then recounted how he apologized once to Amy Carter for calling her "the most unattractive presidential daughter in the history of the country."
As you may have heard, Republican congressional aide Elizabeth Lauten was recently forced to resign amid outrage over a Facebook post in which she accused President Obama’s teen daughters of dressing like bar floozies and urged them to “show a little class
Jenna and Barbara, daughters of George W. Bush, were already young adults -- but not of legal drinking age -- when their names were splashed in headlines during the spring of 2001 after getting caught with liquor.
Largely ignored by the media up to that point, the 19-year-olds were branded "party girls" by the tabloids.

It's an indication of how ugly and undercutting the politics are that even kids are fair game to some people who are punching way below their weight. It's ugly, ugly stuff."

Bill Broussard

Jarvis: A little closer to home, from one deplorable to another, we still have a very Democratic Council and Mayor in Galveston and a 150,000,000.00 bond election coming up with NO accountability for how the money is spent after the election on the part of this City Council and City Manager. The shade is not pulled down completely.

Rudy Steury

Well, we got off the really important stuff like trying to educate all of us who think a little progress was made in the last eight years and we are "just a little better off" than where we started at the bottom of the second worst economic decline in 100 years. It just seems mindless to me when you guys take an article that was intended to make the point that Trump is talking to his followers in that speech using the very questionable conclusions about our disastrous national condition. Instead of noticing the really interesting point of the article that Trump, contrary to every one of his predicessors, used his inaugural address to massage his "movement" instead of trying to unify us all under his leadership. How long do you think he will last ? Or do you really think that he is leading a movement that will grow under his leadership? That seems interesting to me and I would like to hear Carlos inform me on the subject I would really like to understand instead of boring me to death with your quibbling efforts to deny an employment growth trend.

Mr. Tamug93

What employment growth trend??? You mean the one that has been declining over the past 8 years? The private sector has seen a decline of jobs over the past 8 years but government jobs have increased. That is not what progress is called.

There are 90 million Americans out of the work force. That is 90 million Americans on welfare or food stamps who are taxing this nation's economic freedom to the tune of $20 trillion. That is not what progress is called.

American's public school system ranks along the same lines as 3rd world countries. China, Japan and other nations children excel in every aspect of education compared to America. Maybe that is why our children complain about raising minimum wage and paying back school loans for degrees that they can not possibly survive on. All the while, these students from China, Japan and other nations come to America to take the higher-education jobs because corporations cannot find any local talent that is worthy.

You are bored to death because you follow the likes of idiots that try and bring America down to meet the lowest level of citizen in this nation.

Josh Butler

Can we just let him be President, then judge?

Jack Cross

I think readers are getting sick of the constant liberal spin of the GDN where editors choose news stories. Haven’t they noticede that Obama said his policies are on the ballot and they were rejected all across the country.
Optimism on Main Street continues to soar in the wake of the election of Donald Trump. The National Federation of Independent Business' read on small-business sentiment for December hit its highest level since 2004, thanks to a sunnier outlook for business conditions.
The NFIB's index increased by 7.4 points in December to 105.8, up from November's 98.4. It's the largest month-over-month index change since it began in 1986.
That's thanks to business owners' expectations that business conditions will get better. In fact, members' perceptions that business conditions will improve accounted for 48 percent of the month's increase. The index's historical average reading is 98.
Separate data from Staples last week underscored the positive post-election feeling among small employers, with 85 percent saying they are optimistic about the climate in the new year, 67 percent planning to hire and 72 percent planning on increasing staff wages in 2017.
Small-business borrowing also increased in November, according to Thomson Reuters/PayNet, with the lending index increasing for the first time in six months after Trump was elected.
Bloomberg - It feels like another 'Morning in America' moment — the animal spirits are just waking up.
Following the election, a number of indexes that track confidence have jumped, with respondents citing the potential for deregulation and tax cuts once President-elect Donald Trump takes office as the cause of their increased confidence.
Homebuilders are the latest segment of the economy to testify to this surge in optimism. The National Association of Home builders' index of sentiment soared to an 11-year high in December, despite the sizable rise in bond yields since the election. And you can go on and google other sectors of the economy. BNot only that, other western countries are taking Trumps anti globalism and open border positions. These are the real fact checks.

Richard Moore
Richard Moore

Perspective from a conservative commentator with a lot more cred than any of us:

"A most dreadful inaugural address "

By George F. Will January 20 at 3:50 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/01/20/a-most-dreadful-inaugural-address/?utm_term=.e79decd17ac8

Mr. Tamug93

The Washington Post... There is a real unbiased reporting agency. They rank up there with MSNBC or the Clinton News Network.

Rudy Steury

Sure, I will and we all will wait for the results of his leadership. In the mean time predicting the future doesn't end even if it is seldom accurate. Besides, it is always interesting to most of us to see if we have learned anything helpful to that process. By the way, Jarvis you may not understand what I mean by the 75% figure. We all know that Trump got something like 2.7 million fewer votes than Hillary and that he got the majority of the electoral votes. I have no problems with the validity of his Presidency even though I don'[t really think the electoral college should be part of our democratic system. However, everyone that has studied this election seems to think that only about 25% of the voters are true Trump supporters. That is the estimated size of his "movement". The voters that elected him were not voting from a position of enthusiastic support but had many completely unrelated reasons for voting for him. Many just couldn't accept Hillary or couldn't abandon their lifetime party's nominee regardless of what they personally thought of Trump. They probably won't be back next time unless they join the Trump "movement" and that is going to require that Trump perform and please a larger portion of the electorate than he now has. So, Jarvis, tell me if I missed something in sizing the Trump movement at 25%.

Jim Forsythe

Rudy , so true. Independent votes have become very important. If either party does not realize that independents are the ones that wins elections, than they will probably not win. You can find different percentages, but these are in the ballpark.

An average 43% of Americans identified politically as independents in 2014, . In terms of national identification with the two major parties, Democrats continued to hold a modest edge over Republicans, 30% to 26%.

Written Mar 24, 2016
But most of those always vote for one party or the other. They don't like the label but they really lean and vote with a side. When the leanings of independents are taken into account, 48% either identify as Democrats or lean Democratic; 39% identify as Republicans or lean Republican. That makes only 13% Independent.
The recent rise in political independence has come at the expense of both parties, but more among Democrats than among Republicans. Over the last six years, Democratic identification has fallen from 36% -- the highest in the last 25 years -- to 30%. Meanwhile, Republican identification is down from 28% in 2008 to 26% last year.

Gary Scoggin

George... what's wrong with turning border crossers back and sending them on their way. It seems more economical than taking them into custody, processing them and then deporting them. Help me understand here.

George Croix

It's no trend that the American middle class has dropped to second place in the world....

Former Pres. Obama was in office for a bit over 70,000 hours.
Pres. Trump hasn't made 24 yet.
Maybe we can give him another day or two to get moving.....

If he and both houses of Congress fail...too....we can tell them all they're fired at next election......
I hope they manage to start using REAL results as a measure of success, instead of doctored data that makes 'em look good....
Big hope.....as I doubt that the people who got this bunch elected are interested in being told they are better off....they're gonna want to feel it.....

Tim Thompson

If the GDN is such a liberal rag then why do you guys read it?

And anyway, there's enough conservative news sources out there to balance out all the "Leftist, Liberal propaganda," there's a Fox News & a WSJ for every Left Wing NYT and WaPo!

Do what I do, I've got a bunch of news websites bookmarked, & try to check them as often as I can, including: AP, Reuters, NYT, WaPo, WSJ, Fox, National Review, The New Republic, The Atlantic, etc. That's what you have to do, nowadays, to try to get as balanced a view as possible.

But if you want neutral, unbiased news your best bet is going to be the wire sources, AP & Reuters.

Carlos Ponce

"If the GDN is such a liberal rag then why do you guys read it?"
For the local high school sports and to educate Liberals in these forums.
If there are any Conservative journalists out there the GCDN should hire him or her. If you haven't noticed, Galveston County is one of the most Conservative Counties in the state of Texas. Why isn't our side reflected on the Editorial Board? It seems one sided to us. Just one, GCDN, just one.

Paula Flinn

The paper used to be "The Galveston Daily News," and 25 years ago the people on Galveston Island were mostly Democrats. Texas City had its own newspaper, and I guess everyone else read the Houston papers.

When the Republicans got control of the H of R, they had the "Contract with America." Many voting districts were redrawn to include Republican neighborhoods in the northern part of the county so that Republicans won office, but Galveston Island still has many Democrats on it, as well as Republicans.

Much has changed in the last 25 years.

Carlos Ponce

Look around the island and the county, Paula. You will find many Republicans who used to be Democrats 25 years ago. Ask them why. You will hear many say they did not change but the the Democratic Party did. Democrats have taken a sharp turn to Left, leaving many behind to find a party that reflected their views.

Doyle Beard

dem were drawing those lines many years before, called gerrymandering. how do you think controlled things for so long. People got tired of it.

George Croix

Mr. Thompson, I for one like the GDN printing articles with differing viewpoints, just as all sources claiming to present news should do.
It doesn't mean any of us have to agree with any of it, but have an opportunity if we want it.
I learn a lot more from markedly liberal slants than from those I agree with, even if it's inverse.....
I read this stuff for the same reason you do...to see what's being said.....
Common ground......🙂

Tim Thompson

[thumbup][thumbup]

Mr. Tamug93

But when you say you are "reporting the facts" and they are nothing but liberal lies, you are not doing anyone any good.

George Croix

George Will's credibility is a personal matter.
Extremes are rarely credible at either end...imho

George Croix

"Will has been an outspoken critic of Trump for months and a major proponent of the “Never Trump” movement. In April, he wrote a column with the headline, “If Trump is nominated, the GOP must keep him out of the White House.”

On this subject Will has all the objectivity of Hillary writing about Trump.
Will, an elitist more than willing to figure nobody measures up to his standards, left the Republican Party over Trump's nomination.
I, and old East Texas piney woods stomper, left that Party, too, some time ago.....near as I can tell, neither I nor the other George have been missed....
[beam][beam][beam][beam]

George Croix

Gary, this may be a repeat as I'm trying to fat finger an iPhone keyboard....
There is nothing at all wrong about sending people back south except it is an exercise in futility without an actual barrier to their return, and when doing so is counted as a 'deportation' to cook books that's no help in problem solving.
I liken it to taking a bowl of candy away from a dieter but leaving it unlocked where they an still get it, while congratulating oneself on aiding the guy to show self-control.....

Jarvis Buckley

Bill my two favorite folks this old man likes to read are you & Carlos. Keep up the good works. No one can doubt how much you care for this little
Lilly pad on the Gulf.

Keith Gray

Ditto...

Bill Broussard

Carlos? Boy! I've gotta work harder!

Jarvis Buckley

I guess why I'm a little disturbed
by the fanatical Liberals misrepresentation & treatment
of DJT is while I thought BHO
was a parasite on our civilization . I made no remarks
Until I was proved right. I never spoke a word about his relationship with anti- American
People, or the fact he was a
Crackhead sleeping in ally's .
I gave the man a chance. Give
DJT the same chance. Don't
just vote present. Just behave like a fair minded person.
I don't think that's too much to
ask.

Jim Forsythe


Jarvis, is this what you are talking about? You left out the part about Newt. This was about their looks, and not that they were a "skinny, ghetto crackhead” or   “like a car bomber” who “loves torturing.”

A Fox News guest said that some people might want to describe President Obama as a “skinny, ghetto crackhead” Thursday night.
The Conservative Media Research Center’s Brent Bozell appeared on Fox News and was interviewed by guest host Mark Steyn. Steyn replayed a March 2011 clip from Chris Matthews’ MSNBC show, when Matthews described Newt Gingrich as looking “like a car bomber” who “loves torturing.”

Jack Cross

Here is an interesting exchange between Bill Reilly and George Will

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP1A1XlFfVc

Diane Turski

Thank you, GDN, for fact checking and for posting the facts. It appears that several of your readers are not acquainted with them, so you are performing an educational service. Please keep posting facts because otherwise all we will hear/read is more of Trump's campaign swamp gas.

George Croix

The GDN published Fact Checks fact checks, not their own...a difference that may or may not have a distinction,,,depending on whether the GDN, too, wants to tell part of the 'facts'.
The obvious next question is who fact checks Fact Check, as anyone reading the offerings from them herein can find, quite easily, a rather loose gathering of data to use to decide 'fact'...
As one example, using ONE quarter of economic data to declare a 3.5% annual GDP growth under ex-Pres. Obama as an 'expanding economy'...while omitting the other 31 quarters that, collectively, tally at an average of about 1%...maybe.....or the worst showing by any President in, what, 60 years or so.....
Awfully close to a lie by omission, but, just 1/32 enough to be 'factual' .....
Maybe Fact check should go back to school....or perhaps just hook/line/sinker swallowing readersif any.......
[beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam]

Jack Cross

Exactly George and as I pointed out the real data 21 posts up.

Rudy Steury

Our President, after repeated promises to disclose his tax returns after the audit, just admitted that he doesn't ever plan to disclose them, period. I really am just trying to remain as calm as I can. There is no need to invest in skeptical warnings. I fully expect that we will have daily, weekly and monthly announcements that simply can't be ignored. The "harmless" exaggerations destroyed on the rocks of performance. The "good faith" promises exposed as never having been intended to be fulfilled. Believe me, I am not gloating or celebrating as the real Donald Trump gets unmasked. Before you bother to respond let's just put our money where our mouth is. How much of this do you want? What do you want to select as the metric that declares the winner?

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Bill Broussard

MR. TAMUG. I'm reporting every one of your posts until you get with the rules and allow your name to be posted rather than some tag name.

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Carlos Ponce

The article is from the AP (associated Press) news feed.
The Associated Press is governed by an elected board of directors. Since January 26, 2012, the Chairman is Mary Junck, President, CEO and Chairman of Lee Enterprises.
Lee Enterprises went bankrupt. In 2013 Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway bought up Lee Enterprise's loans and also purchased over 4% stake in the company.
We all know Warren Buffet's political leanings contributing to Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.
AP -just following the lead of their master - Warren Buffet.

Carlos Ponce

Is a presidential candidate required to reveal his or her tax returns BY LAW? No.
Trump DID release a financial disclosure which is far more revealing than a tax return.
Hillary knew she would run for president and released her 2015 tax returns showing she paid an effective Federal Tax Rate of 34.2% and gave generously to charity (most going to the Clinton Family Foundation).
Trump's tax returns would probably show a lower tax rate paid than Hillary since his income is derived from investments. Hillary made a big deal of the deductions Trump took, deductions that he was LEGALLY ENTITLED TO.
Rudy, just admit it. No matter what Trump does, you're going to hate it. That's your right. [beam]

George Croix

Good for Trump.
I believe it was Jimmy Carter in '76 that started the 'tradition......after 60 years of nobody doing it.....
But, hey, a question or doubt is a question or doubt......
Maybe release them on, oh, April 27, 2018, would be about right.....

Rudy Steury

Carlos, I personally hoped that Trump would "pivot", as some have called the maneuver, and stop making statements that are by all past standards called lies. Not alternative truths. I actually hoped Trump would do some of the things he has advocated instead of posturing. There is still time and I will be the first to applaud if he follows through on job creation, providing universal health care, etc. I do oppose some of his other prescriptions for making this country great but if he does what he says he is going to do I will politely object to those proposal's I oppose and support the proposals I favor. I don't hate Trump. The problem I fear the most is that Trump will turn out to be a complete fraud who has professed a concern for the people and simply ends up "rolling them" or "scamming them" while futher dividing the country into a smaller fraction than 1% of haves and a larger proportion than 99% of have-nots. To start with we have the right to expect him to keep his word. He clearly said the tax returns would be forth coming when the audit ends. He broke his word and I am afraid that is just the beginning. I respectfully suggest that everyone quit the ideologically motivated disregard for common sense, reason and truth. Lets just all go back to being held responsible for what we say and do. Whether you are Obama, Trump or any other politician you better have a very good and justifiable reason for not doing what you say you're going to do. What changed that justifies his withholding the tax returns when he promised to produce them?

Bill Broussard

The point you make is excellent. Without integrity, we have nothing. I do not point this statement at President Trump. I mean it as an absolute and the President of the Untied States is clearly the most critical.

Kimberley Jones Yancy

Wow! Does anyone on this blog remember 2008? It was horrible! A job is better than no job at all. Do we need better paying jobs in America? Why of course...but lets not forget 2008. It was not that long ago.

Bill Broussard

Mr. Trump has an excellent opportunity that does not require bravado, dissing anyone or pomp. His Secretary of State is an excellent patriot who could forge a much better future with Russia. As an economic engine, we are in great negotiating posture in every one of our off-shore economic partners to negotiate fair and even great deals.

The money US Corporations have stranded off shore is a firm base for negotiating a win win for building plants and jobs on US soil.

At the same time, the job is not a small job. For instance, in West Virginia a state that was a big vote getter for the President and noted for its coal mines, the data from 2016 states that in the state, so much Oxycontin was sold last year that it amounts to >480 tablets per man, woman and child in the state. If the mine opened, would people be able to go back to work?

Finally, there is the Republican party itself. Overuse of Executive order could catch the party blind and ( re: ACA) would the party really do well if executive action resulted in 2000 folks dying in 2017 because their insurance was discontinued? That is not only a real possibility absent a replacement but a big liability going into the mid-term elections.

George Croix

I, personally, don't care about the Tweets but would prefer a little less petulence in them and in statements from our new president, having had enough of that in the last 8 years to last several lifetimes.

Who CARES who has bigger toys...it's who plays with them better that counts...[beam]

Election's over....time to put up....
I DO enjoy watching an insular, opinion-into-news-interjecting media have a cow at least once daily as Trump manipulates them....something he could not do if they'd be professional instead of personal......
But, that's entertainment, and the election was about results expected...not a never ending, day to day, ad nauseum word count....
Get busy on the important stuff like conservative...very... SCOTUS appointment(s), dumping 'signature achievements' and replacing with something that will not fall apart on it's own (and READ it first), re-teaching what the word 'illegal' means and that it has consequences, solid 2nd Amend. support and penalties for criminals rather than honest people, no longer classifying my back yard mudhole an 'inland waterway', stop pretending that anyone else but the U.S. would suffer economically under 'climate change' phony accords and dump same until they show some willingness to walk talk, and don't forget to stop paying money to people who hate us and screw us over (starting south of the border, up north to the UN, then extending all the way to Iran, with passes through Europe, too...).....
Then, after all that, next month, start on........................................ [beam][beam][beam][beam]

Bill Broussard

"I DO enjoy watching an insular, opinion-into-news-interjecting media have a cow at least once daily as Trump manipulates them....something he could not do if they'd be professional instead of personal......"

Sorry about this George but it could also be said "....media having cows would not happen if President Trump would stop manipulating a part of our American heritage and be professional instead of personal..."

If that is what he's doing, he hasn't got enough to do yet.

George Croix

I agree, Bill...no need to be sorry about fact....

But, I'm giving extra credit points for time in grade.....[beam][beam]

Besides, you're an honest guy....our American heritage in the form of the Presidency has been pretty well negatively manipulated for years......imgo....

Bill Broussard

Then its time to cut all the bs out I would think.

George Croix

Bill, make up your mind...do you want to discuss the players in national politics, or discuss cutting out all the BS......they are mutually exclusive, although we can hope for some severe trimming......hope.......[smile]

Besides, bad behavior is no excuse for other bad behavior, but we were getting BS'd by the last guy right up until the next to last day end of the final 'press conference'...Period.....and BS 'd by the losing candidate right up until..so far....

I wish they'd all just shut up, tell it straight, no PC BS, clean or dirty, good/bad/indifferent, say what's actually going on and get along with it....

The Aggies blew another season, so you can tell I do not always get my wish(s), but remain hopeful.....

Nothing more to expect from a

Soulless Jackal

Charlotte O'rourke


President Donald Trump:

“I was very honored — very, very honored when I heard President Bill Clinton and Secretary Hillary Clinton was coming today, and I think it’s appropriate to say,” Trump said during a luncheon at the National Statuary Hall on Friday afternoon. “I’d like you to stand up. And honestly, there’s nothing more I can say because I have a lot of respect for those two people."

Campaign rhetoric of "lock her up" to governing rhetoric of "respect".

It gave me hope until the war on the press continued unabated.

There is nothing scarier than a hissy fit over hand size ... no , no , today we are talking CROWD size and fact checking administration statements.

Scared .... and saying I'm scared! [scared]

Doyle Beard

ok respect for liars and thiefs ok. some who thinks it ok to sell russia uranium then rail on someone else about russia. Be toatl slpooy with national security, have a secret meeting with the A/g . getting impeached . WOW

Bill Broussard

Doyle:

Seems like you are having a bit of trouble with what Mr. Trump seems to say spur of the moment because those words were his words, not Ms.O'Rourke's

Why not tweet him like everyone else does and let him know? You might be the one who has him reconsider.

To be fair, well before that "respect" comment, he pretty well lambasted every President, Representative and Senator after Truman to Obama at the inauguration. [wink]

George Croix

Ms. O'rourke....one can respect their adversaries, real and/or political, while giving them royal heck.....happened all the time out at the refinery.
One guy, for instance, who I would not have poured water on to put him out if on fire outside the gate, was one I CHOSE to work with as often as possible, because he was very good at the job, and the JOB is what we got paid to do, not bring our personal opinions to work.....
No doubt he felt similar, if not worse....

Whether any of it at the Top Levels in DC, either way, is genuine or not is up for debate.....or show and tell.....[beam][beam]
I suspect that anyone selling dogs and ponies will still do a thriving political business for decades to come.....

Bill Broussard

George: I have to say I love reading your posts. Not a single one goes by that I don;t smile[smile].

Being from the TAMU class of 70 and 71 ( yep, did it twice before it wore me out) I must say 2016 was not a good year all around!

But George, "One guy, for instance, who I would not have poured water on to put him out if on fire outside the gate, was one I CHOSE to work with as often as possible, because he was very good at the job"

George, I'd report you to OSHA for this comment if I thought there would be anyone at OSHA three months form now[smile]

Having said that, when you get the gasoline can, let me know. I have a few folks I would like to bring to "visit" when you get ready for the bonfire.[smile]

George Croix

Bill, thanks...I think....but you can't really expect much from a Deplorable, and now worse....
If we'd all worry less about popularity than we do good results we'd all be better off...for sure....and my personally concluded opinion of OSHA based solely on several 'investigators' I dealt directly with, is that they are ugly and their Momma dresses them funny......in family newspaper printable terms....A once very good idea, that's evolved into not much more than a haphazardly and unequally applied witch hunt the objective of which is to levy fines, then repeat....

But, is that worse than Deplorable, or

Soulless Jackal

I only regret the need to re-monogram all my tools and outdoor gear....

Bill Broussard

[beam] You did it again!

Perhaps a bit worse, OSHA tends to get played by who has the strongest agenda at the time, George. But seriously, its a bit "deplorable" to cast folks as poor dressers simply by the unfortunate circumstances of their birth. I prefer monogramed coveralls myself and heavy work boots.

I worked consulting to a very toxic chemical plant a couple of years ago in Wyoming brought in by the Parent company after the plant managed to burn a couple of contractors pretty bad. The subsequent audits ( of which OSHA was one) turned up around 800 violations to start. Of these, OSHA was only about 20%. The others were from all of the audits the company pulled because they were genuine about people not getting hurt.

To the great credit of the company, they used the following year to let site management sort the audits out and the hourly teams fix each one upon approval. In doing so, they changed the entire culture of safety there and OSHA had zero role in the change. I guess they were out learning how to dress for success. Thanks to letting people who know there jobs fix their jobs, that plant went from a disaster to winning the company "spirit" award, the highest for an operating facility, in two years.

BTW; Which name are you going to put on your tools and gear? Deplorable seems to capture it all.

I have a Sharps buffalo gun, 45-70 and its says "Old Reliable" on the barrel. How does "Old Deplorable" sound?[smile]

George Croix

I really Like Soulless Jackal better.......got a ring to it....

Our experiences differ, not surprisingly for a guy with a doctorate vs one with an HS diploma.....but I recall less than fondly one (of several) time being ripped up by an OSHA investigator during a post incident investigation for 'poor pipe-fitting practices that could have led to a bad leak'. I explained to the smug little weasel that 1) I was not acting as a pipe-fitter, but as a Fire Captain during an emergency, 2) that being covered with very hot Cat Cracker slurry that had for-unknown- reasons-at-the-time-stopped-being-on-fire and expecting more of it any second tends to increase the urgency to Do Anything To Stop That, 3) that I and two others with me had less than a minute to get the missing pipe flange (weighing about 30#) in place and secured enough to stop the next surge of oil from burning us, 4) I didn't CARE what size bolts were put in it, as long as they could be tightened enough to just allow a leak, not another gusher, and in fact had also used some #9 wire in a couple of bolt holes, and, finally, 5) I asked him as politely as possible, considering, if he'd ever had any experience doing the same....being directly, on the spot, in non-laboratory or investigative conditions, immediately responsible for himself and others not dying or being severely injured?
Oddly, I was excused from further interviewing, but later was told that the Company got dinged for that jury rigged, just gotta last a little while until the unit finished crashing down and all fires out, flange.....
THAT is one of the tidbits guiding my looks and fashion assessment of OSHA....

It doesn't take long to tell which ones are there to genuinely aid safety issues and which ones are there to nit-pick and write citations....

Bill Broussard

I don't think our views differ much. In my note, I meant to imply that if OSHA came and audited, their input was only 20% and then they went away and let the people who do the work fix it.

Of course, we were in a bad spot where the Parent was very visible for the accident and it was just not acceptable in their environment so management was already burned and OSHA really couldn't ding much more than the company, public opinion, insurers and investors already had dinged em.

Bottom Line: If you work there, you probably know much more than the auditors and just need a chance to work on it. Auditors can point out a direction but, like those commercials on TV, they fix nothing.[smile]

George Croix

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